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How Do I Get a Recruiter to Respond to A Salary Negotiation? | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


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EP 1048 There has been no response to emails or instant messaging. I don’t want to bother my boss. Why aren’t they getting back to me?

Summary

I was asked, "How do I get a recruiter to respond to a salary negotiation?"

The person has been an intern and they have made an offer to them.  The recruiter for this firm hasn't been responding to emails or instant messaging and the intern is frustrated.  They want to find out how they can reach this person for negotiating.

Here are a few points:

As an intern who is converting to full-time staff, you are small fish on their plate.  I have other, more important fish to fry, too.  HR has a lot of things on their plate; they have hiring managers who are demanding service; they are interviewing; they are trying to fill positions; they are writing a heads… There are many things that HR is doing… You are not a big concern for them.
This HR person may be out of the office.  They may be traveling. They may be doing campus recruiting, hence why they may not be responding to you.
You are right not to trouble your boss.  This is not a major priority.  If the rule, they offered you a job  and you have already done parts of this job before.  They will probably be asking themselves, "What's the big deal?  You knew what the price point was we brought you want for this internship?"
They just don't care.  There's no point or concern that they have, because, after all, it's not like you're the only intern on the planet or qualified to do this job.  There are others. Their desire to negotiate is really small.
Let me summarize for you where you stand.

On the one side there is a rock. On the other side, there is a hard place.  You are somewhere between the two.

If your goal is to just make the connection and they are not respond, send an email to HR with the subject line, "Are you okay?"  The message may read something along the lines of, "I have emailed and I am do you and had not received a response.  I have a few questions about the job offer.  Would you give me a call, please?  I just want to make sure you are okay?  My experience of you is that you would normally get back to me but since I haven't heard, I just want to make sure that you are all right."

That will usually "guilt them" into surfacing.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1300 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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How Do You Spot a Bad Recruiter? | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


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An easy question with a complicated answer.

Summary

The question for today is, "How do you spot a bad recruiter?" I think it's a wonderful question, but, I'm not going to give you the answer that you expect.

Here's what my thinking is. Most of you think that a bad recruiter is someone who doesn't get a job for you. You think a bad recruiter is someone who doesn't find you work. As a matter of fact, they may never arrange for an interview for you.

The problem with that is you are confused about what a recruiter is supposed to do. You make the mistake of thinking that recruiters work for you when, in fact, recruiters are paid by employers, not paid to find positions for someone.

I read an answer on Quora. I want to acknowledge it and poke holes in it. It starts off, "From the beginning when you get a first email message from a recruiter, skim to the bottom. Was it written to you. If you could change the name of the top and so the 200s of people… That's the sign of a bad recruiter!"

No. That's an indication that they are casting a wide net. They don't know if you're going to be interested. As a matter of fact, most people will never respond. It's not that they send out bulk email (because in some way, shape or form, you pay contact with them in the past). They have a database that lets them know that one time, when you are in touch with them in the past, you did similar work to what was being sought by the client.

They are presenting an opportunity. You have to accept that opportunity. That's fine.

"They use buzzwords and pick up lines. Bad recruiters have conversations where they use buzzwords and weak pickup lines."

I have no idea what this person means by, "weak pickup lines." They are obviously being sarcastic. However, buzzwords may reflect technology and functionality within a particular profession that a client may require. You have to find out whether the person has those skills pretty quickly in order to see if you are wasting your time and theirs.

"They don't understand its structure of an interview. They ask questions out of left field that seem like they are out of order."

No. Something may have popped into their mind that they forgot to cover. I'm a human being. I do make mistakes. I do forget they ask certain things. If you think, bad recruiter, having filled more than 1200 positions plus consulting assignments, having gone 1500+ YouTube videos on job search, having done three podcasts and a whole host of things because I have something that didn't seem like was in the right sequence for you, how do you feel if someone criticize you for that in your work?

I'm imperfect being. So are you. Give me a break. Don't expect perfection.

"Hard sell." That might be the side of a bad recruiter. I'm going to conceive that point. Some people sell hard. If the reason that they are selling hard is because you changed your story will beg, well, excuse me!

There is an inconsistency that you have not communicated, you've changed your mind, we've gone to bat (as you must realize, contingency recruiters are only paid it if you are hired and remain in the employ of the client for certain period of time).

As a result, your change, on communicated, is a surprise. When we are surprised, often, we are looking at a substantial portion of our income going away. I know that doesn't mean anything to you, but you have to expect that there will be a human reaction to that.

"The questions that they ask are dumb." An employer often requires us to ask and take questions to ensure that a person is qualified.

"We don't follow up do they do all the talking? Are they listening to what you are saying? Do they do the things they say they will when they well?" Do you?

I will simply say, recruiters are imperfect beings. We are sometimes held up by our clients who change their mind and have their circumstances change.

At the end of the day, we don't work for you. We work for an employer who is paying us just like you work for an employer who is paying you. When push has to come to shove, you can do whatever you wish, however, what you interpret as being a bad recruiter often isn't.

I will give you one thing. One of the best indicators of a good recruiter is longevity. They have had success in their field. Worked for their organization (organizations in general) for lengthy periods of time.

I'm not saying this to blow my own horn, but I have survived many recessions and thrived for more than 40 years. That should send a message to you. Will it be perfect for everyone? Absolutely not. A lot of people will judge me as a bad recruiter because I haven't help them.

Okay. Your background doesn't fit what my clients want to hire. Do you think I'm going to get on the phone and call thousand companies for FREE (because you're not paying me anything) to find a job for you? NO!!! I paid by organizations to find talent for them, not to find you a job.

So, remember, who does a recruiter work for? That's the basis of the question. The answer is an employer. They make the judgment by hiring the firm the recruiter works for, doing it time and again, hiring that individual recruiter time and again to fill positions

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Working With Recruiters? Stretch Yourself. | JobSearchTV.com


Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter encourages you to stretch yourself when working with recruiters.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200

JobSearchTV.com
JobSearchTV.com

episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Should I Always Answer When a Recruiter Contacts Me? | JobSearchTV.com


What do you think?

Summary

Should I always reply with a recruiter contacts me? That's today's question. Now, why does your recruiter contact you? They've got a job available. That's reason number one. Reason number two is they're trying to get you to refer someone to them for a job that's available. They think you're hiring someone. They want you to introduce them to someone who's hiring at your firm .Those tend to be the four basic reasons.
Now why should you NOT resond? You have no interest in what they're peddling. Okay, perfectly valid reason. The issue is () () or let me just debate back with you () sometime in the future, you may need them and, yes, you can say, " well they'll work with me anyway, I've got a great background," but why would you turn them off and not try to build a relationship with them?
You can always reply by saying. "Hey! Thanks for reaching out to me about that position. I'm not really interested right now." You can refer someone to them who might be interested or you can simply say, "I don't really know anyone who's looking who might fit that role but I do appreciate your reaching out to me." if you don't want to write that out? Create a signature file in Outlook or created in Word If you're using Gmail or Yahoo mail or one of the web-based services so that you can automatically copy and paste iti in.
If they are looking for a referral, you just respond by saying, "hey, thanks for reaching out. I don't know anyone who fits that profile who? Might consider something right now. No one's voiced it to me and I hope to hear from you in the future if you think there's something that makes sense."
They think you're trying to your hiring someone. You can respond by saying, " I'm not trying to hire right now and I appreciate you reaching out with the offer to help ."
They want an introduction. "I don't want to introduce someone to my boss who I don't really know well, and I'm a little busy right now to get to know you. So, no disrespect intended, you have to go a different way. "
All of these are very quick emails that you can pre write that allow you to communicate, not be rude and just very simply say. "Thanks, but no thanks,"in one way or another. Obviously if you're interested, there's a different response that you have.
But ,you know, I'll simply say it's not a lot of effort to offer quality results. So, don't just blow them off and ignore them if they're reaching out to you through inMail. It's costing them money to do that. LinkedIn will penalize them. If you don't respond. If you do respond, they get credited back the inMail to use towards contacting someone else.
Don't penalize people who are basically trying to help you. Yes, they'll help themselves in the process. But so what ?So what ? They're trying to help you by reaching out to you about an opportunity. You've got a free will and a choice. You can say yes or no. If they have reached you had the right time or what they say piques your interest, terrific!
But my belief is that every time you have an opportunity to build a relationship with someone ,you try to do it, especially if they're in a role where they can help you in the future.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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How to Give a Recruiter a Rough Time (The H-1b version) | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thebiggamehunter/2018/09/22/how-to-give-a-recruiter-a-rough-time-the-h-1b-version

EP 1234 Do you have an H-1b visa? This is what some of you do that gives a recruiter a rough time.

Summary

I'm doing a short series about how to be up a recruiter. How to basically grind them down and where them out on your side. This one is specifically geared toward people with an H-1B visa . . . You know, people who are foreign nationals, legal right to work in the United States, no problem with that, but there's some things that you do that just drive recruiters crazy. Here are couple of examples period

The ad says that there no Visa transfers. You apply anyway. How do you think that's going to work? The client is unwilling to transfer a visa. What makes you think they are suddenly going to look at your resume and go, “OH! OH! OH! This person would be perfect! We are going to change corporate policy and agreed to transfer a visa.” It doesn't happen, does it? Do you know anyone that has ever happened to you? No. So, why are you doing it?

Another thing you do is send out your resume, it has a name and a phone number on it an email address. Where are you? The job ad indicates that the client is unwilling to relocate someone and we are supposed to figure out, based upon the name and phone number where you are. Because, even when you put your mobile number on there, you moved two or three times. You may not be anywhere near that place or you may be . . . We just have no way of knowing. I know you may be concerned about identity theft but city, state and ZIP Code on it, okay?

Then, there's a second reason for that. If you put city, state and ZIP Code on it and have uploaded a resume into a system, we can find you in the future when we do have something where there is a visa transfer. Without ZIP Code, where are you? Everyone is searching by the skills and are searching by proximity to the employer. Since most firms don't pay for relocation. So, with that, put your city, state and ZIP Code on so that, in this way, we can find you in the system. Because, ultimately what is starting to happen is you are spamming relentlessly. You're nothing but a Viagra ad are a Cialis add or someone trying to sell lottery tickets or nonsense.

I can't give you the courtesy of a phone call because I yet so many of these. Every day, there are so many in my inbox I have to set up signature files and reply, “what is your ZIP Code? Where are you as well as a series of other questions. Do you think I can call everyone, leave a message, have you get back to me and waste my time that way, too. So, bizarre of all things! Then, I write to you and you never respond back. All I’m doing is asking a couple of simple questions from a time management standpoint, but suddenly you go, “but why doesn’t he call me? I deserve a phone call!” It doesn't work that way, does it?

So I'm just asking you, instead of hurting so many people with your m, just follow the instructions in the job ad that you are applying to. If it says, “no third parties that are involved,” don't send a resume that says, “for more information on Corp to Corp work, contact my agent.” Why? Why are you doing this?

If the ad says, “no visa transfers,” don't apply. If the ad says, “no relocation,” give us an idea where you are because, I can’t tell you, I get so many resumes of different people who are away from the geography, you never look and then, you go, “Oh, well. Will they do remote work?”

NO!!!

They won’t do remote work!

So, don't be an idiot. Don't be cruel. Don't be an a**hole! Just make it clear. Where are you? Only apply to jobs that you fit. Follow the instructions in the ad.

So, I hate being blunt like this but I’ve just spent days like this recently, responding back to people and it hurts. You may not give a sh*t, I do. I’ve got a family, just like you do. So, be careful, okay?

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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How Do You Spot a Bad Recruiter? | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

An easy question with a complicated answer.

Summary

The question for today is, "How do you spot a bad recruiter?" I think it's a wonderful question, but, I'm not going to give you the answer that you expect.

Here's what my thinking is. Most of you think that a bad recruiter is someone who doesn't get a job for you. You think a bad recruiter is someone who doesn't find you work. As a matter of fact, they may never arrange for an interview for you.

The problem with that is you are confused about what a recruiter is supposed to do. You make the mistake of thinking that recruiters work for you when, in fact, recruiters are paid by employers, not paid to find positions for someone.

I read an answer on Quora. I want to acknowledge it and poke holes in it. It starts off, "From the beginning when you get a first email message from a recruiter, skim to the bottom. Was it written to you. If you could change the name of the top and so the 200s of people… That's the sign of a bad recruiter!"

No. That's an indication that they are casting a wide net. They don't know if you're going to be interested. As a matter of fact, most people will never respond. It's not that they send out bulk email (because in some way, shape or form, you pay contact with them in the past). They have a database that lets them know that one time, when you are in touch with them in the past, you did similar work to what was being sought by the client.

They are presenting an opportunity. You have to accept that opportunity. That's fine.

"They use buzzwords and pick up lines. Bad recruiters have conversations where they use buzzwords and weak pickup lines."

I have no idea what this person means by, "weak pickup lines." They are obviously being sarcastic. However, buzzwords may reflect technology and functionality within a particular profession that a client may require. You have to find out whether the person has those skills pretty quickly in order to see if you are wasting your time and theirs.

"They don't understand its structure of an interview. They ask questions out of left field that seem like they are out of order."

No. Something may have popped into their mind that they forgot to cover. I'm a human being. I do make mistakes. I do forget they ask certain things. If you think, bad recruiter, having filled more than 1200 positions plus consulting assignments, having gone 1500+ YouTube videos on job search, having done three podcasts and a whole host of things because I have something that didn't seem like was in the right sequence for you, how do you feel if someone criticize you for that in your work?

I'm imperfect being. So are you. Give me a break. Don't expect perfection.

"Hard sell." That might be the side of a bad recruiter. I'm going to conceive that point. Some people sell hard. If the reason that they are selling hard is because you changed your story will beg, well, excuse me!

There is an inconsistency that you have not communicated, you've changed your mind, we've gone to bat (as you must realize, contingency recruiters are only paid it if you are hired and remain in the employ of the client for certain period of time).

As a result, your change, on communicated, is a surprise. When we are surprised, often, we are looking at a substantial portion of our income going away. I know that doesn't mean anything to you, but you have to expect that there will be a human reaction to that.

"The questions that they ask are dumb." An employer often requires us to ask and take questions to ensure that a person is qualified.

"We don't follow up do they do all the talking? Are they listening to what you are saying? Do they do the things they say they will when they well?" Do you?

I will simply say, recruiters are imperfect beings. We are sometimes held up by our clients who change their mind and have their circumstances change.

At the end of the day, we don't work for you. We work for an employer who is paying us just like you work for an employer who is paying you. When push has to come to shove, you can do whatever you wish, however, what you interpret as being a bad recruiter often isn't.

I will give you one thing. One of the best indicators of a good recruiter is longevity. They have had success in their field. Worked for their organization (organizations in general) for lengthy periods of time.

I'm not saying this to blow my own horn, but I have survived many recessions and thrived for more than 40 years. That should send a message to you. Will it be perfect for everyone? Absolutely not. A lot of people will judge me as a bad recruiter because I haven't help them.

Okay. Your background doesn't fit what my clients want to hire. Do you think I'm going to get on the phone and call thousand companies for FREE (because you're not paying me anything) to find a job for you? NO!!! I paid by organizations to find talent for them, not to find you a job.

So, remember, who does a recruiter work for? That's the basis of the question. The answer is an employer. They make the judgment by hiring the firm the recruiter works for, doing it time and again, hiring that individual recruiter time and again to fill positions

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

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How to Give a Recruiter a Rough Time (The H-1b version)

EP 1234 Do you have an H-1b visa? This is what some of you do that gives a recruiter a rough time.

Summary

I'm doing a short series about how to be up a recruiter. How to basically grind them down and where them out on your side. This one is specifically geared toward people with an H-1B visa . . . You know, people who are foreign nationals, legal right to work in the United States, no problem with that, but there's some things that you do that just drive recruiters crazy. Here are couple of examples period

The ad says that there no Visa transfers. You apply anyway. How do you think that's going to work? The client is unwilling to transfer a visa. What makes you think they are suddenly going to look at your resume and go, “OH! OH! OH! This person would be perfect! We are going to change corporate policy and agreed to transfer a visa.” It doesn't happen, does it? Do you know anyone that has ever happened to you? No. So, why are you doing it?

Another thing you do is send out your resume, it has a name and a phone number on it an email address. Where are you? The job ad indicates that the client is unwilling to relocate someone and we are supposed to figure out, based upon the name and phone number where you are. Because, even when you put your mobile number on there, you moved two or three times. You may not be anywhere near that place or you may be . . . We just have no way of knowing. I know you may be concerned about identity theft but city, state and ZIP Code on it, okay?

Then, there's a second reason for that. If you put city, state and ZIP Code on it and have uploaded a resume into a system, we can find you in the future when we do have something where there is a visa transfer. Without ZIP Code, where are you? Everyone is searching by the skills and are searching by proximity to the employer. Since most firms don't pay for relocation. So, with that, put your city, state and ZIP Code on so that, in this way, we can find you in the system. Because, ultimately what is starting to happen is you are spamming relentlessly. You're nothing but a Viagra ad are a Cialis add or someone trying to sell lottery tickets or nonsense.

I can't give you the courtesy of a phone call because I yet so many of these. Every day, there are so many in my inbox I have to set up signature files and reply, “what is your ZIP Code? Where are you as well as a series of other questions. Do you think I can call everyone, leave a message, have you get back to me and waste my time that way, too. So, bizarre of all things! Then, I write to you and you never respond back. All I’m doing is asking a couple of simple questions from a time management standpoint, but suddenly you go, “but why doesn’t he call me? I deserve a phone call!” It doesn't work that way, does it?

So I'm just asking you, instead of hurting so many people with your m, just follow the instructions in the job ad that you are applying to. If it says, “no third parties that are involved,” don't send a resume that says, “for more information on Corp to Corp work, contact my agent.” Why? Why are you doing this?

If the ad says, “no visa transfers,” don't apply. If the ad says, “no relocation,” give us an idea where you are because, I can’t tell you, I get so many resumes of different people who are away from the geography, you never look and then, you go, “Oh, well. Will they do remote work?”

NO!!!

They won’t do remote work!

So, don't be an idiot. Don't be cruel. Don't be an a**hole! Just make it clear. Where are you? Only apply to jobs that you fit. Follow the instructions in the ad.

So, I hate being blunt like this but I’ve just spent days like this recently, responding back to people and it hurts. You may not give a sh*t, I do. I’ve got a family, just like you do. So, be careful, okay?

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

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Your Biggest Mistake Working With Recruiters | JobSearchTV.com


Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter points out the biggest mistake job hunters make when they think about working with recruiters.

Summary

Today, I want talk with you about your expectations of working with a recruiter and point out to you that they may be out of whack.

Most people have the mistaken notion that a recruiter works for them. That is the job hunter you're in charge and the recruiter is working for you. That’s partially right. To understand who are recruiter works for, ask yourself how much are you paying them? Seriously, how much you paying them? Nothing. Who's paying the recruiter? The employer. Do you think a recruiter is going to go out once they have your resume and knock on thousands of doors until they find a job for you?

No. That's a working for you really means. It means that they are out there trying to find a job for you; in point of fact, since employers are paying recruiters, they’re working for the employer and what they're trying to do more often than not is finesse you into the square box that the employer has defined in terms of job, in terms of compensation, in terms of role and responsibilities . . . Every step along the line. If you don't fit that box, you're not on their radar screen.

When they get a job, when they find the job the fits you, have no fear period They will get back in touch. But understand, they are not working for you. They’re really working for the employer.

Now, I also don’t want to ignore the fact that, ultimately, they have to listen to you and work with your constructs and your needs, wants and desires in order to fill a position. But, if you think your number one, in their book, you are very confused because, ultimately, as is in your life, the person who pays you is the one to whom the loyalty exists.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

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How to Get on a Recruiter’s Radar | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


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EP 1175 On this show on this show, I discuss how to get on a recruiter’s radar.

Summary

So you've seen an ad and it's a roadmap for what they're looking for. Take a look at your resume and ask yourself, "How does that really match up? Does it match up? Do I have the experience, but my resume doesn't really express it well? I need to fix the resume." That's going to be the benchmark by which they go. You can also get on their radar by . . . There are going to be times where they are going to contact you and say, "Hey, I'm doing this with our client. Do you know someone?" and being supportive of them. If they get abusive, and one particular recruiter calls you every day four times a day for referrals, you just tell them, "This is getting to be a little too much. I'm willing to help but I'm not stupid. I've got a job to do. It is not putting money in your pocket. I'm willing to help but why don't you send an email with this information?

Now the true recruiter model,they are out there hunting for you. They're trying to find you. If you're working with at a level where they're going to be dealing with a contingency firm or an executive firm, that really doesn't matter. Part of it is you want them to find you. And there's a number of easy ways to do it.

Number one is you start being in situations where there it is publicity about you. So, for example, you've written a book, you have an article, there are a number of articles that you've written, a number of books. The firm that you are going to wind up looking for someone like that because they represent being an expert. In another instance. Let's say, you are not at that higher level where you're an author and publishing deal with a major publisher. Another thing you can do you speak at conferences. You know, you can be part of a program for a trade group where you are presenting on a subject. It doesn't have to be the most sophisticated presentation but understand they'll find you through Google.

Another way is your LinkedIn profile. There are recruiters who operate at that level who are looking through LinkedIn and you need to demonstrate a keyword rich LinkedIn profile where they are finding you based on your experiences. They are seeing things in the profile such as articles that you've written for LinkedIn, connections to podcasts where you have been interviewed or perhaps PowerPoints on SlideShare that help firms recognize and help recruiters recognize I should say that you're not the average individual. By doing these powerpoints and putting them up on SlideShare and connecting them to your LinkedIn profile, it's a great way to stand out from the pack and and demonstrate that you are an expert.

Have a Web site where you have your resume. Have a blog on that Web site where you talk about, not your family but professional matters. These were all great ways for discovery to occur because, understand a real headhunter is help, they are trying to find you and they are looking looking for people in ways, did not trying to find you on LinkedIn most of the time.
They may use LinkedIn to correlate, but they are using Google to try to find people who will impress their clients, just by the fact that there is PR about them they presented . . . a whole host of things along these lines.

So I want you to think of your career as a business and, in doing so, when you look at what businesses do to be discovered, you know, it's not just the advertising that they do because there are a lot of places that don't advertise that you go to, right?

Just because you've seen them in the neighborhood that you're buying. After all, the first time shopped on Amazon you never heard of them before. You had no idea what to expect. You went to Amazon, had a great experience. Again, you went to Amazon to be discovered and put yourself in the position to be discovered. That will go a long way toward being discovered by third party recruiters.

And again, if you're working with the agency level with someone who only response so resumes that are sent to them, remember your resume just has to demonstrate the fit and then they will be happy to help.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for what more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1100 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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