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Why Would a Company Pay a Fee to A Recruiter? | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


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EP 1436 I think the answer is obvious but I worked in search for more than 40 years. Here’s the reason.

Summary

Having worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years, I have a perspective on answering this question… "Why would a company pay a fee to a recruiter? They are so expensive!"

When you stop and think about it for a second and look at it from a company's perspective, I will divide this between contingency a retained search firms, if they are working with a contingency recruiting firm, you can work with multiple firms and only pay the one that provides the person that was hired. That means you have a sales force available to you that is enormous out there trying to find the right talent for your firm to hire.

But still, it seems expensive. A company will pay a fee of 20%, 22.5%, 25%, 30%, 35% or even more on a contingency basis. For retained firm, is always the high end of the scale plus expenses. This seems expensive. Again, let's look at from the employer's perspective... You may have a few people doing recruiting for your firm. Some firms may work with a team of individuals who are able to source, interview, assess, and refer talent because they have a big pool of. Individuals available to them doing the recruiting.

Using IT or accounting as an example, most firms are not going to have a team of individuals that their firm. They may have one individual who is responsible for filling a certain type of role. Not only are they filling one type of job, but they are filling multiple jobs. They have to find these people.

You may say, "Just run an ad!" That's easy for you to suggest. Typically, you get many many many bad responses, hoping against hope, that one person comes through their that you want to actually talk to. You see, there is a lot of kissing frogs and talking to frogs before you decide you actually want to go out on a date with them let alone customer want to get married to them! As a result, there is a lot of time that goes into sourcing talent.. The result is a decision that you would be better served by having a bigger salesforce out there serving you to find talent and qualifying people for you.

What third-party recruiters and sourcers often do is that they are out there finding the talent and referring people for interviews. From there, companies take over and do the rest of the process. They don't do the scheduling; the 3rd party recruiter or the sourcer or might do that. It just saves them a lot of time he gets an access to a bigger pool of talent because their "sales force" is bigger.

In addition, you may be thinking of one job. They may be trying to fill 15 or 20 different types of jobs. As a result, there just isn't enough time and in the day to do that. Without a doubt, companies find it cost-effective to pay the fee on a contingency basis to whoever finds the right talent.

On a retained basis, it is different. On a retained basis, you are paying them for focused attention. They ARE going to find that person you will eventually hire. Thus, you are prepaying them a certain amount of money to purchase their attention and commitment to filling a particular job. This tends to be done for positions in a high level within an organization. C suite and senior positions in an organization will generally be put out to a retained search firm. They are definitely going to fill that job. It is cost-effective for them. Is cost-effective because they can't dedicate the resources to do everything they need to do.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1400 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was recently named a Top 10 podcast for job search. JobSearchTV.com was also recently named a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Schedule a free Discovery call.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions. 

NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com
NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

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You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

 

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

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Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

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Stupid Job Search Mistakes

Stupid Job Search Mistakes: Depending On Recruiters | JobSearchTV.com


I received a message from someone who should know better

Summary

I received a message from someone who Should know better about working with recruiters. Let me simply say that this is the global head of HR for particular organization. They are not a beginner to say the least. I got a message from them saying, "hi! Do you have anything for me?" Were not talking by the $70,000 year person. Were talking with someone who's earning something far more substantial. Let me give you perspective.

All recruiters in the United States... Let me back up for a second. Job boards fill approximately 3% of all positions. That percentage is been pretty constant for a long time. The number that is filled by recruiters… Take a guess... 20% to 22%. That has been pretty consistent over the years. He may be a big shot here and say that some jobs are filled by recruiters who get a response to an in that is on a job board. . There are going to be overlap so I'm simply going to say 30% of all jobs are filled by recruiters and job boards. I figure that's an easier way to
do it.In other words, more than two thirds are filled through other means. More than two thirds are filled by other means, generally as a result of networking.

Are you investing will your time and what recruiters are doing for you? busy that you have to outsource your job search to someone who is there, not to help you, but to help themselves and their client? Seriously. How much of your time. Are you using depending on recruiters and have little are you spending, investing time on your own search? Are you doing things to build new relationships, connect with people that you haven't spoken with in a long time, , network with those who you are close to, putting yourself out there?

I'm obviously not talking about a job search that is going to happen overnight. But how is that would recruiter job search going for you, too?Is that what happened it overnight? I know it isn't.

What I will say to you is that you are going to make mistakes in a networking approach because you are not an expert at networking.You may be doing pretty well as part of your job like if you are in business development, It is the same formula about creating leads. However, for those of you are not salespeople or work in business development, you are going to make mistakes… That's the reality of it, Just like you are going to contact recruiters who will be absolutely useless to you. I know that because resumes have been spent the me all day long for years so I know that most of you contact recruiters who I know can't help you.

So, start making your mistakes. Start reaching out to people who might be able to help you.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1400 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was recently named a Top 10 podcast for job search. JobSearchTV.com was also recently named a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Schedule a free Discovery call.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

JobSearchTV.com
JobSearchTV.com

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Working with Recruiters


In this video, Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter offers advice to you about working with recruiters.

Summary

Today, I want to offer you some No BS Job Search Advice about working with recruiters. Now, many of you have very unrealistic expectations of what a recruiter going to be able to for you.
I want to take the mythology out of it. Recruiters aren't there to find you a job. Recruiters in there to fill jobs that their clients need to have filled and then get paid for their work. You are the collateral requirement to be able to do that. However, they're going to find the job for you once . . . maybe. They're hoping to have a relationship with this client where they're filling lots of jobs.
Now, from your vantage point, there are a couple of different things you have to pay attention to. One is if you're sending an unsolicited resume to them, why would you expect that they're going to call you? They may not have anything for you. You are just sending spam to them. So that's point number one.
Point number two is when you send your resume, make the resume demonstrate the fit in a way that's obvious. All recruiters are overwhelmed with resumes these days, because it's so easy for you to send them out. Most of what we get is garbage. It's garbage because they in no way shape or form demonstrates a fit for the position you think you're qualified for. You're wasting our time. So, the second point is tailor your resume for every job that you submit it to. Every resume that you submit to a recruiter, use a cover letter emphasizing some of those points.
Now, I don't mean attaching an extra file there. The extra file isn't going to be read. But using the mess age area of the email to call attention to the fit that your resume is also going to display goes a long way toward getting a recruiter's attention.
Number three is, yes, they're trying to help you find the position. But more importantly, they're trying to fill the requirement at a client. They don't want to get yelled at by the client. Take their coaching. They know these situations better than you do. And they know this client.I have to say hopefully because you may be talking to the junior recruiter, and the senior's really the one who knows the client well. Get to the person who's the account manager in order to ensure that you're getting the best coaching before each interview.
Finally, when it comes time to salary negotiations, they're in an awkward position. The client is telling them how much they're willing to pay. They're trying to drive you to that number. Make sure that if you're getting a signal that that number that you're looking for, isn't going to be met by the client, halt the process somewhere.
Now, I'm not saying yell and scream, I want to be clear about that. But halt the process and just make sure that the numbers that you're talking about are numbers that can be met later on. Otherwise, you're going to waste a lot of time interviewing for something pointless that's going to result in you turning down the offer.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1400 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was recently named a Top 10 podcast for job search. JobSearchTV.com was also recently named a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Schedule a free Discovery call.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

Why Would a Company Pay a Fee to A Recruiter? | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


Listen to the full episode here
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thebiggamehunter/2019/04/16/why-would-a-company-pay-a-fee-to-a-recruiter-nobsjobsearchadvicecom

EP 1436 I think the answer is obvious but I worked in search for more than 40 years. Here’s the reason.

Summary

Having worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years, I have a perspective on answering this question… "Why would a company pay a fee to a recruiter? They are so expensive!"

When you stop and think about it for a second and look at it from a company's perspective, I will divide this between contingency a retained search firms, if they are working with a contingency recruiting firm, you can work with multiple firms and only pay the one that provides the person that was hired. That means you have a sales force available to you that is enormous out there trying to find the right talent for your firm to hire.

But still, it seems expensive. A company will pay a fee of 20%, 22.5%, 25%, 30%, 35% or even more on a contingency basis. For retained firm, is always the high end of the scale plus expenses. This seems expensive. Again, let's look at from the employer's perspective... You may have a few people doing recruiting for your firm. Some firms may work with a team of individuals who are able to source, interview, assess, and refer talent because they have a big pool of. Individuals available to them doing the recruiting.

Using IT or accounting as an example, most firms are not going to have a team of individuals that their firm. They may have one individual who is responsible for filling a certain type of role. Not only are they filling one type of job, but they are filling multiple jobs. They have to find these people.

You may say, "Just run an ad!" That's easy for you to suggest. Typically, you get many many many bad responses, hoping against hope, that one person comes through their that you want to actually talk to. You see, there is a lot of kissing frogs and talking to frogs before you decide you actually want to go out on a date with them let alone customer want to get married to them! As a result, there is a lot of time that goes into sourcing talent.. The result is a decision that you would be better served by having a bigger salesforce out there serving you to find talent and qualifying people for you.

What third-party recruiters and sourcers often do is that they are out there finding the talent and referring people for interviews. From there, companies take over and do the rest of the process. They don't do the scheduling; the 3rd party recruiter or the sourcer or might do that. It just saves them a lot of time he gets an access to a bigger pool of talent because their "sales force" is bigger.

In addition, you may be thinking of one job. They may be trying to fill 15 or 20 different types of jobs. As a result, there just isn't enough time and in the day to do that. Without a doubt, companies find it cost-effective to pay the fee on a contingency basis to whoever finds the right talent.

On a retained basis, it is different. On a retained basis, you are paying them for focused attention. They ARE going to find that person you will eventually hire. Thus, you are prepaying them a certain amount of money to purchase their attention and commitment to filling a particular job. This tends to be done for positions in a high level within an organization. C suite and senior positions in an organization will generally be put out to a retained search firm. They are definitely going to fill that job. It is cost-effective for them. Is cost-effective because they can't dedicate the resources to do everything they need to do.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1400 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was recently named a Top 10 podcast for job search. JobSearchTV.com was also recently named a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Schedule a free Discovery call.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions. 

NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com
NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

 

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

Is There a Recruiter Blacklist? | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thebiggamehunter/2019/03/09/is-there-a-recruiter-blacklist-nobsjobsearchadvicecom

EP 1398 I answer a question about whether a recruiter blacklists exist.

Summary

Someone asked me a question that translates into, "Is there a blacklist of people that recruiters won't represent?".

If you think there is a central database that consists of individuals that all corporations and all recruiters will not represent or will not hire, that is not the case. HOWEVER, we all have long memories. When I worked in recruiting. I remembered every person that screwed me, every person who accepted a job offer impact out of it, every person who lied on an interview Once we had technology it is very easy to track that information. I assume that I am not unique in that every search firm, every corporate recruiter, every corporation has their version of that.

For example, if you work at a company or working your firm and someone has accepted a job offer and then accepted a counter offer from your current employer or elsewhere, there is a notation about that. If you interviewed poorly or misrepresenting your skills in some way, claiming that you have expertise that you do not have, I am sure there is an notation about that in their applicant tracking system. Or, shall we say, if you have lied in some way, found out at a later date and decided not to extend an offer to you as a result of the deception that they found out about, I am sure there is a notation about that.

However, if what you are asking is whether there is a central repository, I saw there was one attempt to create one. But the domain does not exist anymore so I'm not even going to mention the name. However, I will say that it is something to be concerned about.

There is also the social stuff. For example, you are at a networking event and to recruiters talk to one another, they are from different firms and they see you and one says to the other, "That person presents so well, but we lost the higher with him because he lied." Do you think the other recruiter doesn't file that way? Of course they do!

I remember the guy who interviewed for me, we scheduled for interviews on a given day as he walked out of each 1 of them, saying, "Would you mind cashing a check for me? Someone robbed me on the way over for the interview." It wasn't for a lot of money, maybe $20 or $25, but he bounced checks to everyone! Do you think I don't remember that?

There is stuff like that that goes on, but there is no formal, central repository. Each search firm. Each Corporation may keep their list of individuals that just do not fit or are just not appropriate that they will never consider hiring or representing. However, there is no central database.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1300 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was recently named a Top 10 podcast for job search. JobSearchTV.com was also recently named a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Schedule a free Discovery call.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com
NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

Don’t Delete The Recruiter! | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thebiggamehunter/2019/01/21/dont-delete-the-recruiter-nobsjobsearchadvicecom

EP 1351 Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter explains why you should pay attention when a recruiter contacts you about a job opportunity. 

Summary

Today I want to talk with you about what I'll nickname don't delete the recruiter. Let me explain what triggers this one,
Every time I get a new requirement, I have a database and I'll send an email out to people in my database who fit the skills requirement. And I'll just very simply say, "I'm doing a search for a client, describe what the client is or does, where they're located. I'll describe the position and the compensation. I'll continued by saying, "it's been a long time since we've been in contact. I thought it would drop a note to you and see if you might be interested. If you're qualified, interested in available please email me email a copy of your resume to me at . . . "and I provide my email address.
Now, often way too often, I receive a response that is almost the yelling at me.
"I told you to delete my email address before. Or it'll say, "get rid of this," or it will just simply say, "remove," you know, the polite version of go away.
That's okay. That however, is why I want to explain to you why it's not really in your interest to do any of those.
What I want to start with the premise that I think you can agree with is the person who gets ahead isn't always the smartest, they don't always work the hardest, although those are two great qualities to have. People could head by being alert to opportunity. Sometimes, those opportunities are internal to the organization. More often than not, they are external. Can you agree with that?
If you can, you can skip the rest of this video. If you can't, then I'll simply say you can't predict when opportunity is going to land in your lap. It won't necessarily arrive at a time where you decide that it's the right time. What you can do is just remain alert.
Now, you'll receive many emails from recruiters. They'll seem absolutely wrong. And I'll speak of myself early in my career where, again, I'be been doing this for more than 40 years. Now, when I was in my first or second year and sometimes later, I would contact someone who in no way shape or form fit a job because I just didn't know any better. I'm still learning my craft.
And yet at the same time, many of these opportunities I presented, eventually, whether it be right for someone, does that mean you should be abusive to the recruiter if they make a mistake or if they contact you at the wrong time? No, of course, not. Does that mean that you have to say yes to everything that's offered up to you. Of course, not. However, the only way you can know about these opportunities is if you read the email or listen to the phone, call that you get.
Sometimes, you'll want to take another step. Sometimes you'll simply say (and this is all you have to say) is, "I'm not interested in this. It doesn't sound like a worthwhile opportunity for me at this time. Thanks. You can stay in touch with other things. I'm not aggressively looking. But if you think there's something that makes sense, give me a call or send me an email." It's really that simple.
Because, again, if someone said to you and I'll use my own name, "Jeff, I have an opportunity for you to go on TV and be a reality star doing a pilot for show on TV, do you think I would hang up? No, of course, not. I would want to know more. I might audition; I might do more.
But if I wasn't interested, all I had to do is say, "you know, thank you. I'm very flattered that you reached out to me it doesn't seem like something I'd want to do."

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No

NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com
NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1300 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

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Should I Call Recruiters Directly to Find Me a Job or Wait for Them to Call Me? | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thebiggamehunter/2018/12/18/should-i-call-recruiters-directly-to-find-me-a-job-or-wait-for-them-to-call-me

EP 1319 Should I call up recruiters directly to ask them to find me a job, or wait for them to call me?

Summary

The question for today is, "Should I call up recruiters directly to ask them to find me a job or wait for them to call me?"

I'm not sure what you think recruiters do...When you are calling them up, are you paying them anything for this? And you expect them to "find you a job?" Seriously, when you say, "find you a job," you have the equation all wrong.

The equation for a recruiter, headhunter, any professional that is in the employment business is they are there to fill jobs and get paid for their efforts. They are not there to "find you a job" except coincidentally in that process. So, in terms of waiting for them to call you, (1) See if you can identify people who work in your field. Seriously. Don't just call recruiters up at random; see if you can find people who work in your field.

(1a) See if they have any jobs open that fit your background. They are not there to find the job for you. They are there to fill a job with you or someone like you. I say it that way because if you act like a jerk, There is someone there who is not going to act like a jerk who they are going to work with To fill this position with because they don't want to get embarrassed in front of their client. That's because the client is going to stop calling them If there are too many people that they refer who act stupid.

So, you always want to be in the position where recruiters are contacting you. That's because it is clear that they have a role open that might fit you. You can always look at job ads on job boards for local newspapers, websites and a whole host of other places to find individual recruiters who have positions open that fit your background. Again, I want to be clear – – "that fit your background." Don't spam your resume and send it like so much garbage. They don't have time for this. If you do that you are Being like the people who spam them with Viagra ads that landed in their inbox all the time. It is just a colossal waste of time! To call them up and simply say, "Hey! I'm looking for a job,," It is no different than spam.

However, I don't want you to be passive. If you are in a professional field, what I want you to do Is have a quality LinkedIn profile that is keyword optimized So that you attract recruiters who have positions open for someone like you. You want to have your resume on a job born because that can ask you pretty wide net to people who are looking for people like you. You want to have your resume on Indeed, SimplyHired and Other sites in order to draw people to you who have positions open AND you want to be setting up search agents on different job boards so that they notify you When positions get listed. You want to be out there networking.

If you're not in a professional field, networking can take a different form. For example, if you are a recent grad you can go on LinkedIn, go across the ribbon on the top and see alumni from your school who may be a year or 2 ahead of you and you network with them. In blue-collar work, you can network with people you have worked with previouslyAnd see if they know about a position.

However, to call up a recruiter out of the blue To find a job for you? You are just kidding yourself.

Also say that you need my help. If you think this is the way it works, I want to encourage you to join JobSearchCoachingHQ.com. I have curated information that will help you find work, PLUS You can ask me questions that will help streamline your process and make your search go faster.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes and “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

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How Do I Get a Recruiter to Respond to A Salary Negotiation? | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thebiggamehunter/2018/03/19/how-do-i-get-a-recruiter-to-respond-to-a-salary-negotiation

EP 1048 There has been no response to emails or instant messaging. I don’t want to bother my boss. Why aren’t they getting back to me?

Summary

I was asked, "How do I get a recruiter to respond to a salary negotiation?"

The person has been an intern and they have made an offer to them.  The recruiter for this firm hasn't been responding to emails or instant messaging and the intern is frustrated.  They want to find out how they can reach this person for negotiating.

Here are a few points:

As an intern who is converting to full-time staff, you are small fish on their plate.  I have other, more important fish to fry, too.  HR has a lot of things on their plate; they have hiring managers who are demanding service; they are interviewing; they are trying to fill positions; they are writing a heads… There are many things that HR is doing… You are not a big concern for them.
This HR person may be out of the office.  They may be traveling. They may be doing campus recruiting, hence why they may not be responding to you.
You are right not to trouble your boss.  This is not a major priority.  If the rule, they offered you a job  and you have already done parts of this job before.  They will probably be asking themselves, "What's the big deal?  You knew what the price point was we brought you want for this internship?"
They just don't care.  There's no point or concern that they have, because, after all, it's not like you're the only intern on the planet or qualified to do this job.  There are others. Their desire to negotiate is really small.
Let me summarize for you where you stand.

On the one side there is a rock. On the other side, there is a hard place.  You are somewhere between the two.

If your goal is to just make the connection and they are not respond, send an email to HR with the subject line, "Are you okay?"  The message may read something along the lines of, "I have emailed and I am do you and had not received a response.  I have a few questions about the job offer.  Would you give me a call, please?  I just want to make sure you are okay?  My experience of you is that you would normally get back to me but since I haven't heard, I just want to make sure that you are all right."

That will usually "guilt them" into surfacing.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1300 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

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How Do You Spot a Bad Recruiter? | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


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An easy question with a complicated answer.

Summary

The question for today is, "How do you spot a bad recruiter?" I think it's a wonderful question, but, I'm not going to give you the answer that you expect.

Here's what my thinking is. Most of you think that a bad recruiter is someone who doesn't get a job for you. You think a bad recruiter is someone who doesn't find you work. As a matter of fact, they may never arrange for an interview for you.

The problem with that is you are confused about what a recruiter is supposed to do. You make the mistake of thinking that recruiters work for you when, in fact, recruiters are paid by employers, not paid to find positions for someone.

I read an answer on Quora. I want to acknowledge it and poke holes in it. It starts off, "From the beginning when you get a first email message from a recruiter, skim to the bottom. Was it written to you. If you could change the name of the top and so the 200s of people… That's the sign of a bad recruiter!"

No. That's an indication that they are casting a wide net. They don't know if you're going to be interested. As a matter of fact, most people will never respond. It's not that they send out bulk email (because in some way, shape or form, you pay contact with them in the past). They have a database that lets them know that one time, when you are in touch with them in the past, you did similar work to what was being sought by the client.

They are presenting an opportunity. You have to accept that opportunity. That's fine.

"They use buzzwords and pick up lines. Bad recruiters have conversations where they use buzzwords and weak pickup lines."

I have no idea what this person means by, "weak pickup lines." They are obviously being sarcastic. However, buzzwords may reflect technology and functionality within a particular profession that a client may require. You have to find out whether the person has those skills pretty quickly in order to see if you are wasting your time and theirs.

"They don't understand its structure of an interview. They ask questions out of left field that seem like they are out of order."

No. Something may have popped into their mind that they forgot to cover. I'm a human being. I do make mistakes. I do forget they ask certain things. If you think, bad recruiter, having filled more than 1200 positions plus consulting assignments, having gone 1500+ YouTube videos on job search, having done three podcasts and a whole host of things because I have something that didn't seem like was in the right sequence for you, how do you feel if someone criticize you for that in your work?

I'm imperfect being. So are you. Give me a break. Don't expect perfection.

"Hard sell." That might be the side of a bad recruiter. I'm going to conceive that point. Some people sell hard. If the reason that they are selling hard is because you changed your story will beg, well, excuse me!

There is an inconsistency that you have not communicated, you've changed your mind, we've gone to bat (as you must realize, contingency recruiters are only paid it if you are hired and remain in the employ of the client for certain period of time).

As a result, your change, on communicated, is a surprise. When we are surprised, often, we are looking at a substantial portion of our income going away. I know that doesn't mean anything to you, but you have to expect that there will be a human reaction to that.

"The questions that they ask are dumb." An employer often requires us to ask and take questions to ensure that a person is qualified.

"We don't follow up do they do all the talking? Are they listening to what you are saying? Do they do the things they say they will when they well?" Do you?

I will simply say, recruiters are imperfect beings. We are sometimes held up by our clients who change their mind and have their circumstances change.

At the end of the day, we don't work for you. We work for an employer who is paying us just like you work for an employer who is paying you. When push has to come to shove, you can do whatever you wish, however, what you interpret as being a bad recruiter often isn't.

I will give you one thing. One of the best indicators of a good recruiter is longevity. They have had success in their field. Worked for their organization (organizations in general) for lengthy periods of time.

I'm not saying this to blow my own horn, but I have survived many recessions and thrived for more than 40 years. That should send a message to you. Will it be perfect for everyone? Absolutely not. A lot of people will judge me as a bad recruiter because I haven't help them.

Okay. Your background doesn't fit what my clients want to hire. Do you think I'm going to get on the phone and call thousand companies for FREE (because you're not paying me anything) to find a job for you? NO!!! I paid by organizations to find talent for them, not to find you a job.

So, remember, who does a recruiter work for? That's the basis of the question. The answer is an employer. They make the judgment by hiring the firm the recruiter works for, doing it time and again, hiring that individual recruiter time and again to fill positions

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

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Working With Recruiters? Stretch Yourself. | JobSearchTV.com


Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter encourages you to stretch yourself when working with recruiters.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200

JobSearchTV.com
JobSearchTV.com

episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.