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How Do You Spot a Bad Recruiter? | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

An easy question with a complicated answer.

Summary

The question for today is, "How do you spot a bad recruiter?" I think it's a wonderful question, but, I'm not going to give you the answer that you expect.

Here's what my thinking is. Most of you think that a bad recruiter is someone who doesn't get a job for you. You think a bad recruiter is someone who doesn't find you work. As a matter of fact, they may never arrange for an interview for you.

The problem with that is you are confused about what a recruiter is supposed to do. You make the mistake of thinking that recruiters work for you when, in fact, recruiters are paid by employers, not paid to find positions for someone.

I read an answer on Quora. I want to acknowledge it and poke holes in it. It starts off, "From the beginning when you get a first email message from a recruiter, skim to the bottom. Was it written to you. If you could change the name of the top and so the 200s of people… That's the sign of a bad recruiter!"

No. That's an indication that they are casting a wide net. They don't know if you're going to be interested. As a matter of fact, most people will never respond. It's not that they send out bulk email (because in some way, shape or form, you pay contact with them in the past). They have a database that lets them know that one time, when you are in touch with them in the past, you did similar work to what was being sought by the client.

They are presenting an opportunity. You have to accept that opportunity. That's fine.

"They use buzzwords and pick up lines. Bad recruiters have conversations where they use buzzwords and weak pickup lines."

I have no idea what this person means by, "weak pickup lines." They are obviously being sarcastic. However, buzzwords may reflect technology and functionality within a particular profession that a client may require. You have to find out whether the person has those skills pretty quickly in order to see if you are wasting your time and theirs.

"They don't understand its structure of an interview. They ask questions out of left field that seem like they are out of order."

No. Something may have popped into their mind that they forgot to cover. I'm a human being. I do make mistakes. I do forget they ask certain things. If you think, bad recruiter, having filled more than 1200 positions plus consulting assignments, having gone 1500+ YouTube videos on job search, having done three podcasts and a whole host of things because I have something that didn't seem like was in the right sequence for you, how do you feel if someone criticize you for that in your work?

I'm imperfect being. So are you. Give me a break. Don't expect perfection.

"Hard sell." That might be the side of a bad recruiter. I'm going to conceive that point. Some people sell hard. If the reason that they are selling hard is because you changed your story will beg, well, excuse me!

There is an inconsistency that you have not communicated, you've changed your mind, we've gone to bat (as you must realize, contingency recruiters are only paid it if you are hired and remain in the employ of the client for certain period of time).

As a result, your change, on communicated, is a surprise. When we are surprised, often, we are looking at a substantial portion of our income going away. I know that doesn't mean anything to you, but you have to expect that there will be a human reaction to that.

"The questions that they ask are dumb." An employer often requires us to ask and take questions to ensure that a person is qualified.

"We don't follow up do they do all the talking? Are they listening to what you are saying? Do they do the things they say they will when they well?" Do you?

I will simply say, recruiters are imperfect beings. We are sometimes held up by our clients who change their mind and have their circumstances change.

At the end of the day, we don't work for you. We work for an employer who is paying us just like you work for an employer who is paying you. When push has to come to shove, you can do whatever you wish, however, what you interpret as being a bad recruiter often isn't.

I will give you one thing. One of the best indicators of a good recruiter is longevity. They have had success in their field. Worked for their organization (organizations in general) for lengthy periods of time.

I'm not saying this to blow my own horn, but I have survived many recessions and thrived for more than 40 years. That should send a message to you. Will it be perfect for everyone? Absolutely not. A lot of people will judge me as a bad recruiter because I haven't help them.

Okay. Your background doesn't fit what my clients want to hire. Do you think I'm going to get on the phone and call thousand companies for FREE (because you're not paying me anything) to find a job for you? NO!!! I paid by organizations to find talent for them, not to find you a job.

So, remember, who does a recruiter work for? That's the basis of the question. The answer is an employer. They make the judgment by hiring the firm the recruiter works for, doing it time and again, hiring that individual recruiter time and again to fill positions

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

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JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

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Is the recruiter being honest or trying to scam me? How do I answer?

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest

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show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

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Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

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The One Quality You Should Learn from Successful Recruiters | JobSearchTV.com


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Recruiters. Can’t live with them or without them. One thing I know is that most job hunters hate recruiters AND there is something to be learned from successful ones.

Summary

Recruiters. People hate third-party recruiters. I was talking with someone yesterday and he started laughing when I commented about recruiters. They are just not popular people with a lot of folks.

But, if you or someone who's job hunting, there's something that you can learn from recruiters, something that, in your networking, something in your follow-up, something that I think is very useful for many of you. That is the quality that the recruiter has where they are relentless, where they pursue and they challenge and they, at times, argue and advocate and never give up.

Now, you may say, “Well, they are obnoxious.” Well, there closing deals and they found that this is a behavior that works. Being nice may not be working for you. You know, being nice – – waiting for the phone to ring period never calling people. Never emailing.

“They’ll call me if they are interested.”

Relentless.

I'm not saying that you should call every 10 minutes or email every 30 minutes, but you know how this works – – out of sight, out of mind. If you don't reach back to people, if you don't try to reconnect with them, if you don't network and, in your networking, try to maintain a relationship with someone, you know, you can expend a lot of energy unnecessarily. I say “unnecessarily” because you get results and have to keep doing this stuff over and over again and there's no point to it a few not doing it well.

Again, being relentless doesn't mean “ridiculous.” It does mean perseverance and most of you are way too passive with your lives and with your careers and you don't really take things head on.

Within your organization, you're waiting for the promotion. Why aren’t you doing something to make it happen? Seriously. Why aren’t you doing something to make it happen? Why aren’t you pursuing your boss's boss?

“Oh! That would not be a good thing.”

Why? Why wouldn't it be a good thing?

Again, you have created this limitation that this is the way it's supposed to be and it doesn't have to work that way. If you are valuable, if what you're doing is quality work… for real, not what your mother tells you, you go and challenge status quo. If the status quo doesn't like that, you go to someplace that will like it because no one is looking out for you more than you do. If you abdicate to your employer, you are out of luck if you wait for the phone to ring, you won't get anywhere.

So, take on the quality of relentlessness from recruiters. I’m telling you, it will help you land more jobs.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

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Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

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Don’t Steal FromJeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter explains why you should not steal from recruiters.Recruiters| JobSearchTV.com

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter explains why you should not steal from recruiters.

Summary

You probably don't think of it this way but let me clear it up. When you see an ad from a recruiter and refers to a job online and you say to yourself, "hey I know that firm is! I think I'll contact them directly," you are stealing. You're taking information that you learned about and using it for your own purposes.

I also want you to understand it's not the smartest move in the world. Why? The recruiter has a relationship with this firm. They know more than you about the organization. They can handle your schedule. They can help you tailor your resume based upon the job involved and the relationship with the firm and what they may know about the job apart from what has been advertised.

Why would you go around them? To save the firm money?

It costs you so much more because 95 times out of 100 people to get the job that they apply to directly without the coaching of a recruiter.

Foolishly, you think you're doing the company a favor. In fact, you're hurting yourself and you are stealing. You are stealing that information to use it for your own purposes without any consideration for the impact on the other person.

Be considerate.

Be kind.

I talked to a friend of mine who is a recruiter with another firm who told me about two instances where people saw one of her postings and went directly to a client and the client dismissed these people and told her the story about them because it was real clear that these people had come to them based upon seeing the advertisement.

Let me summarize by saying, "don't do it." What do you get out of it? Do you feel good about it? Do you feel good that you were tricky and are better than the recruiter?

Or you're going to get back a recruiter that you don't even know for all the things that happened to you at the hands of recruiters?

Stop it. Seriously, be considerate to everyone that you meet professionally because you don't know when it will come back and either help you or hurt you.

Help you because you are considered to the other person or hurt you because you acted obnoxiously.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
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Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

 

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How to Give a Recruiter a Rough Time (The H-1b version)

EP 1234 Do you have an H-1b visa? This is what some of you do that gives a recruiter a rough time.

Summary

I'm doing a short series about how to be up a recruiter. How to basically grind them down and where them out on your side. This one is specifically geared toward people with an H-1B visa . . . You know, people who are foreign nationals, legal right to work in the United States, no problem with that, but there's some things that you do that just drive recruiters crazy. Here are couple of examples period

The ad says that there no Visa transfers. You apply anyway. How do you think that's going to work? The client is unwilling to transfer a visa. What makes you think they are suddenly going to look at your resume and go, “OH! OH! OH! This person would be perfect! We are going to change corporate policy and agreed to transfer a visa.” It doesn't happen, does it? Do you know anyone that has ever happened to you? No. So, why are you doing it?

Another thing you do is send out your resume, it has a name and a phone number on it an email address. Where are you? The job ad indicates that the client is unwilling to relocate someone and we are supposed to figure out, based upon the name and phone number where you are. Because, even when you put your mobile number on there, you moved two or three times. You may not be anywhere near that place or you may be . . . We just have no way of knowing. I know you may be concerned about identity theft but city, state and ZIP Code on it, okay?

Then, there's a second reason for that. If you put city, state and ZIP Code on it and have uploaded a resume into a system, we can find you in the future when we do have something where there is a visa transfer. Without ZIP Code, where are you? Everyone is searching by the skills and are searching by proximity to the employer. Since most firms don't pay for relocation. So, with that, put your city, state and ZIP Code on so that, in this way, we can find you in the system. Because, ultimately what is starting to happen is you are spamming relentlessly. You're nothing but a Viagra ad are a Cialis add or someone trying to sell lottery tickets or nonsense.

I can't give you the courtesy of a phone call because I yet so many of these. Every day, there are so many in my inbox I have to set up signature files and reply, “what is your ZIP Code? Where are you as well as a series of other questions. Do you think I can call everyone, leave a message, have you get back to me and waste my time that way, too. So, bizarre of all things! Then, I write to you and you never respond back. All I’m doing is asking a couple of simple questions from a time management standpoint, but suddenly you go, “but why doesn’t he call me? I deserve a phone call!” It doesn't work that way, does it?

So I'm just asking you, instead of hurting so many people with your m, just follow the instructions in the job ad that you are applying to. If it says, “no third parties that are involved,” don't send a resume that says, “for more information on Corp to Corp work, contact my agent.” Why? Why are you doing this?

If the ad says, “no visa transfers,” don't apply. If the ad says, “no relocation,” give us an idea where you are because, I can’t tell you, I get so many resumes of different people who are away from the geography, you never look and then, you go, “Oh, well. Will they do remote work?”

NO!!!

They won’t do remote work!

So, don't be an idiot. Don't be cruel. Don't be an a**hole! Just make it clear. Where are you? Only apply to jobs that you fit. Follow the instructions in the ad.

So, I hate being blunt like this but I’ve just spent days like this recently, responding back to people and it hurts. You may not give a sh*t, I do. I’ve got a family, just like you do. So, be careful, okay?

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
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Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Your Biggest Mistake Working With Recruiters | JobSearchTV.com


Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter points out the biggest mistake job hunters make when they think about working with recruiters.

Summary

Today, I want talk with you about your expectations of working with a recruiter and point out to you that they may be out of whack.

Most people have the mistaken notion that a recruiter works for them. That is the job hunter you're in charge and the recruiter is working for you. That’s partially right. To understand who are recruiter works for, ask yourself how much are you paying them? Seriously, how much you paying them? Nothing. Who's paying the recruiter? The employer. Do you think a recruiter is going to go out once they have your resume and knock on thousands of doors until they find a job for you?

No. That's a working for you really means. It means that they are out there trying to find a job for you; in point of fact, since employers are paying recruiters, they’re working for the employer and what they're trying to do more often than not is finesse you into the square box that the employer has defined in terms of job, in terms of compensation, in terms of role and responsibilities . . . Every step along the line. If you don't fit that box, you're not on their radar screen.

When they get a job, when they find the job the fits you, have no fear period They will get back in touch. But understand, they are not working for you. They’re really working for the employer.

Now, I also don’t want to ignore the fact that, ultimately, they have to listen to you and work with your constructs and your needs, wants and desires in order to fill a position. But, if you think your number one, in their book, you are very confused because, ultimately, as is in your life, the person who pays you is the one to whom the loyalty exists.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
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Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Should I Only Work With 1 Recruiter? | JobSearchTV.com


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Someone asked me a great question. I think it’s great because this is something that people arrested do all the time by recruiters who want exclusivity with them.

Summary

I received a question from someone. The short version is, “Should you only be working with one headhunter/recruiter. I'm not sure what to do. What are the do's and don'ts?”

I want to start by saying if you work in a town where it's very small and you want to work in that town, that one recruiter may have all the contacts that are relevant. However, the likelihood of that is very small. Let me use an example.

You are New York, Los Angeles, Chicago. You are in Des Moines. Peoria. Skokie. These are reasonably sized cities, right, and you want to find a job. So, let me start by saying the recruiter is not going to have access to every job and that town. However, what they are trying to do is to control you so that they can place you or have the potential of placing you in a job and, thus, earn a fee.

That is a conflicting priority to yours. Your priority is to get a job; their priority is to collect a fee. They only collect a fee if you take the job through them. If you take a job through someone else because, you aren’t working with a headhunter; you are working with a contingency recruiter. As such, they want to collect a fee and they’re going to try to manipulate you (I’m going to say it that way because you seem to be relatively inexperienced with the question that you’ve posed because you spoke about confusion do’s and don’ts . . . stuff almost those lines that suggest you are a relative beginner).

So, as a relative beginner, your interest is getting a job, right? And their interest is collecting a fee. They don't have access to every job in this town or city. They have access to a finite number of jobs and they want it to go to their clients. So, if their client i or clients isn’t interested in hiring you, they’re sitting home, playing on their phone all day, wondering when you get a phone call. Another recruiter may have some of the same jobs, but they may have some different ones, as well and another one after that and another one after that and another one after that.

Your job is to be out there networking because, here's the statistic I keep quoting. Job boards fill 6% of all positions; recruiters fill 20 - 22% of positions. I combined those numbers and round them up. 30% of all jobs are filled by job boards and recruiters. 70 percent are filled as a result of networking and of that networking is 49% of people who find work find work as a result of introductions to people that their network introduces them to, that their network knows who they don't. So, it's not your friend or your relationship who helps you get the job directly. It's who they know who you don’t. That is half of all jobs.

Working with one recruiter takes that down to a microscopic few options. Speaking for myself, when I did recruiting, I was very successful. I worked very closely with a few firms. Let’s say, five. My office handled a bunch of others. We had a 25 person office. If everyone in that office operated like me, you do the math about how many clients we had in New York and around the country. After all, we did national work and we knew if our relationships were intense and of great quality with one organization, we could make a lot of money. But, if you didn't fit those requirements, you were useless to us.

Imagine if we said to you, “We are the only recruiter. We are the only search firm that should represent you. No one else.” You would be out of work, right? That’s because we would only have 125 potential clients to introduce you to. Each might have a lot of different jobs but still 500 jobs… 600 jobs out on and entire country?

So, no, don't work with only one recruiter. It doesn't necessarily serve your interests. It serves their interest.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for what more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

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Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Managing Third Party Recruiters | No BS Hiring Advice


In this video, Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter offers a number of ideas for managing third party recruiters more effectively. You should never hire and how to find out if the candidate you are interviewing is one of them.

 

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for what more than 40 years. He is the host of

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

“No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

 

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How to Get on a Recruiter’s Radar | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


Listen to the full episode here:
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EP 1175 On this show on this show, I discuss how to get on a recruiter’s radar.

Summary

So you've seen an ad and it's a roadmap for what they're looking for. Take a look at your resume and ask yourself, "How does that really match up? Does it match up? Do I have the experience, but my resume doesn't really express it well? I need to fix the resume." That's going to be the benchmark by which they go. You can also get on their radar by . . . There are going to be times where they are going to contact you and say, "Hey, I'm doing this with our client. Do you know someone?" and being supportive of them. If they get abusive, and one particular recruiter calls you every day four times a day for referrals, you just tell them, "This is getting to be a little too much. I'm willing to help but I'm not stupid. I've got a job to do. It is not putting money in your pocket. I'm willing to help but why don't you send an email with this information?

Now the true recruiter model,they are out there hunting for you. They're trying to find you. If you're working with at a level where they're going to be dealing with a contingency firm or an executive firm, that really doesn't matter. Part of it is you want them to find you. And there's a number of easy ways to do it.

Number one is you start being in situations where there it is publicity about you. So, for example, you've written a book, you have an article, there are a number of articles that you've written, a number of books. The firm that you are going to wind up looking for someone like that because they represent being an expert. In another instance. Let's say, you are not at that higher level where you're an author and publishing deal with a major publisher. Another thing you can do you speak at conferences. You know, you can be part of a program for a trade group where you are presenting on a subject. It doesn't have to be the most sophisticated presentation but understand they'll find you through Google.

Another way is your LinkedIn profile. There are recruiters who operate at that level who are looking through LinkedIn and you need to demonstrate a keyword rich LinkedIn profile where they are finding you based on your experiences. They are seeing things in the profile such as articles that you've written for LinkedIn, connections to podcasts where you have been interviewed or perhaps PowerPoints on SlideShare that help firms recognize and help recruiters recognize I should say that you're not the average individual. By doing these powerpoints and putting them up on SlideShare and connecting them to your LinkedIn profile, it's a great way to stand out from the pack and and demonstrate that you are an expert.

Have a Web site where you have your resume. Have a blog on that Web site where you talk about, not your family but professional matters. These were all great ways for discovery to occur because, understand a real headhunter is help, they are trying to find you and they are looking looking for people in ways, did not trying to find you on LinkedIn most of the time.
They may use LinkedIn to correlate, but they are using Google to try to find people who will impress their clients, just by the fact that there is PR about them they presented . . . a whole host of things along these lines.

So I want you to think of your career as a business and, in doing so, when you look at what businesses do to be discovered, you know, it's not just the advertising that they do because there are a lot of places that don't advertise that you go to, right?

Just because you've seen them in the neighborhood that you're buying. After all, the first time shopped on Amazon you never heard of them before. You had no idea what to expect. You went to Amazon, had a great experience. Again, you went to Amazon to be discovered and put yourself in the position to be discovered. That will go a long way toward being discovered by third party recruiters.

And again, if you're working with the agency level with someone who only response so resumes that are sent to them, remember your resume just has to demonstrate the fit and then they will be happy to help.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for what more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1100 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

How Do You Treat a Bad Recruiter? | JobSearchTV.com


It is absolutely bizarre to me that someone would ask this question. Yet there I was, and I need to answer it.

Summary

I received this question from someone and I just shake my head when I read it. The question is, “How do you treat bad recruiter?”

I don't know what this person means by, “bad recruiter.” I normally associate people's thinking of a bad recruiter as someone who doesn't get them an interview, who doesn't get them a job or doesn't return phone calls, etc. etc.

I know there are people who thought of me is a bad recruiter and I thought of them as bad candidates, but I digress for a second. I will simply say I don't know what a bad recruiter it is. If it's one of the above categories, maybe you play a part in this. Maybe you submitted a resume that doesn't fit a job. Maybe they wouldn't submit you to a job that you really wanted to be submitted to because you weren’t qualified but you think of them as “bad” because they didn't listen to you. .

You see, you don't pay most recruiters anything. Unless you're in a a lower echelon position, fees are being paid by employers. Recruiters work for the employer; they don’t work for you.

If they were rude to you, if they were abrupt with you, I always ask, “Wasn't there something that you did to invoke that.” Maybe they had a bad day. Whatever It is, the question is, “how do you treat a bad recruiter?”

Get your parents teach anything about manners? They may be obnoxious, but that doesn't mean that you have to go there. And I'll simply say that, for most individuals, It's far better to think long term. And I will just remind you that, for someone like me who worked in search for more than 40 years, I had a long memory. I remembered a lot of things that people said and did that have become the basis for some other videos and podcasts I've done. And there were people, I would not submit, for jobs because, they were just obnoxious I couldn't tell how they would act with the client of mine. .

So, you're always far better to simply, say, “Hey look, I am not interested in making a job change right, but stay in touch from time to time, if you hear about something because, after all, (I am going to detour here for a second) the person who gets ahead isn't always the smartest or work, although those are great qualities to have. The person who gets ahead is the one that remains alert to opportunities. Sometimes, those opportunities are internal to the organization. More often than not, they are external to it.

So, you never want to be offensive to a recruiter because you never know when they learn about a position and want to consider you for search. Why would you turn them off?

Again, I don't believe you need to go job hunting with recruiters, but if someone approaches you about a role, why would you ever be offensive to them? Why would you ever consider that you should treat them in any other way than with the same respect that you want to be treated?
It's bizarre to me that people actually think that this is a question that requires any sort of you. You treat everyone in your life with respect. You demonstrate excellence in your behavior and, lo and behold, great stuff comes back to you.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for what more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1100 episodes,“ Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us and click the relevant tab on the top of the page.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.