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The Two Ropes Brainteaser | JobSearchTV.com

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter discusses one of those tough hedge fund brainteaser questions, the two ropes problem.

Summary

Today, I want to pose what for some of you are frustrating and for others of you annoying hedge fund brainteaser questions and provide you with the answer for it. Today's question deals with this scenario--you have 2 ropes and a lighter. You'll be asked to measure out 45 minutes BUT the ropes can burn at varying speeds. So, for example, one rope might burn halfway in 5 minutes and the other in the remaining 55. You don't know which is which. You just know that you have to measure out 45 minutes with these 2 ropes in a lighter. How do you go about doing it?

One rope (let's call it Rope A) you light at both ends. Rope B only light at one end. At the end of 30 minutes, the 1st rope is going to be done. Now with the 2nd rope lighting at the other end so that now both ends are burning. By the time that one is exhausted, 15 minutes has elapsed. That's how you're going to measure out 45 minutes of time.

Just repeat, the 1st rope is lit at both ends; the 2nd rope 1 end. After 30 minutes, the 1st rope is gone. Now light the 2nd rope from the 2nd end , and 15 more minutes has gone by.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

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Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

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What Would You Do? | JobSearchTV.com


I pose a provocative question that will help you far beyond what you realize.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

Summary

I promised you a provocative question when you saw this video and here it is.

If you were fired tomorrow, what would you do? How would you act? Who what you contact? What would you do?

I'm not being flip here, but I'm just saying the next recession is coming. I don’t know when. There is going to be another recession. I have my suspicions about when it’s going to occur, but that's irrelevant to this video. What is relevant is that there is going to be another recession or the firm you are working for is going to have to lay people off. It could involve you.

That's the situation I want to set up for you. What would you do? How would you go about your search and why aren't you doing things to anticipate that need and be prepared?

I understand you have got a job. I understand that you're busy. You’ve got a wife, or husband, or partner. You’ve got kids that want your attention. But, if you're out of work, suddenly, there will be a crisis in your family. So, here's what I want you to do.

I want you to think like the next recession is imminent and I want you to start planning ahead to do the sorts of things that will advantage you over the people who haven’t planned. You can do things like in build and enhance your network of relationships. You can do things like monthly, every other month, at latest, every third month, update your resume. Jot down some notes about what you’ve been doing.

You can do things to reconnect with people that you haven’t been in contact with in a while and just say, “hi! How are you?” and certainly, if people leave your firm, you can make sure that you're connected with them on LinkedIn and have their phone number and email address at home in case you want to connect with them in the future.

Those are couple of simple things that you can do. The most important thing is to develop a mindset now. One other mindset, apart from this, I'd like you to consider is what can you do NOW to reduce your cost structure so that if something like this did happen to you or did happen to your wife, husband or partner and needed to conserve capital so that you guys could last longer in your job search, where could you cut costs NOW.

I'm telling you there's going to be another recession. Everyone is going to be affected by it. I'm not saying you are going to get fired, but the economy is going to crater at some point and you want to be ready, just in case.

If I'm wrong, how have you hurt yourself, right? You spent some time in ways that you may be able to capitalize on in order to advance your career. If I'm right, you will put yourself ahead of so many other people in your preparation, in your readiness for this, you won’t believe it.

So, I have a couple things in my book and I’m not here to pitch the book to you, but “Get Ready for The Job Jungle,” is available as a PDF on www.TheBigGameHunter.us and on Amazon for Kindle.

The most important thing is get yourself ready, just in case. Be prepared and be proactive. Otherwise, you can really hurt yourself by your unwillingness to invest time now to head off a crisis later.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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The Role of The Recruiter in a Negotiation | JobSearchTV.com


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Many people have the belief that recruiters work for them.

Summary

So, what's the role of the recruiter in a negotiation? Well, in the best of circumstances, they're a mediator between your interests and an employe'rs interest.
"You mean they don't represent me?"
Up to a point. Up to a point, they represent you but they also have to represent the institutional customer who's going to be paying them.
You don't pay them. Someone is paying them for the service of identifying an individual to fill a need. That person is you. So, the idea that the recruiter is balancing interests of different parties– – that's really the way you have to think of it. When you talk to the recruiter,basically, you're sitting opposite a mediator for the employer who's trying to see if they can– –my choice of terms– – " finesse you" into accepting what the employer's going to propose.
So, what you say to them is often going to get back to the employer.. There are really no great secrets. So, they don't really negotiate all that hard because you're not paying them. Often, a recruiter is going to try and push you into what the employer wants because when you are gone, there's always someone else.
So, understand that what they're paid to do is get the right person for a job at the best price possible for the client. So, I'll simply say that when you're talking with them, there's a point where you'll sense that they're trying to maneuver you into a particular conclusion because they've learned that this is what their client wants. And you can pause for a second and say, " are you trying to tell me that they will only pay this amount of money?" Just there's some point blank because it will save you a lot of time and aggravation when you start using your senses and listen to what they're suggesting to you.
Well, frankly,, I'm looking for $10,000 more from them and if they can't deliver it, I'm sorry. Head back to them and get them to up the money," and that saves a lot of time because what you've done, very simply, is shortcut the manipulation that's going on where they're trying to drive you to a particular number and get you to say, " yes," by taking control.
Now, if you're okay with that number, just simply say, "I would like them to do a touch better." It is following the advice from my video, " the easiest way to negotiate a higher salary for yourself ."Watch that video on YouTube. It's a good one and will help you in this scenario. There's a little bit of theater that I teach in that in that video. So, watch it and practice it in advance because, trust me, thereh comes a point with many recruiters where they're driving into particular number and particular outcome because they believe that that's as much as the client is willing to go.
In good times, the client may exceed expectations. In bad times,the only negotiating that they're going to do is, "we're giving him two choices– – leave it and take it. "So when times are good as they are when I'm recording this, often, there's additional flexibility. So,use that to your advantage because, trust me, when times are bad,they're going to use their leverage to their advantage.
So, the role of the recruiter ostensibly is to mediate between interests. However, and sometimes that mediation involves telling you that there's no way they're going to that number, tell them to try. Tell him to take a shot. Indicate what it is that you really want and come back to you if they're unwilling to take it. Don't indicate to them that you're willing to accept because, otherwise, some recruiters will just sit on their hands for a day and then come back and say they won't do it.
So, I'll just say that mediation between parties but ultimately they don't work for you. They work for the person the pays them.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

 

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What Do You Want To Be | The No BS Coaching Advice Podcast


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EP 81: “What do you want to be when you grow up” is a classic question children are asked. Yet, there is another, slightly different question adults need to be asked. Listen for the question . . .

Summary

This is The No BS Coaching Advice Podcast. I'm your host, Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter. I'm called the Big Game Hunter. . . Well, I help people play Big professionally and often, people have forgotten about the play part. They have forgotten about the big part. They've gotten on the conveyor belt of life, work . . . Everything and they're just not as magnificent as they could be. So, I'm The Big Game Hunter because I want to help you play big and I thought I would do a show today talking about, well, that classic question from childhood at least in the United States. It's classic question, " what do you want to be when you grow up?"
and the question suggests career. I remember being a young boy and thinking about becoming a lawyer because I used to watch the Perry Mason show on TV. That's how long ago it was and I really admired the characte that was Perry Mason. There was something about him that basically said, "I am terrific I am fabulous." No one is better than me. I'm going to win every case.
But there's another question that we're never asked and as the career choice becomes clearer to us, we forget something else and that is our humanity which isn't part of that question .That question is about job –career– work. The question we forget to ask ourselves is who we want to be when we grow up.
What kind of person do we want to be? What kind of heart do we want to share? Is that even important to us? Because, for many people, they're so immersed in their work and that is fine. That is absolutely fine. But, for so many others ,there's something that's missing in the focus on job and career that is just impossible to sort out. And what's interesting, and I'm reminded of this from a quote that I read about a week ago, that's so many people try to figure it out on their own because they say to themselves – –. Here it is. We have a big quote.– – " I'm smart. I should know how." And, unfortunately, you don't .You would have already done it already. So, what winds up happening is people get stuck in these patterns of discomfort, displeasure, unhappiness that they keep trying to figure out and can't .I know that was true of me for so long until eventually I made this transition to coaching and started to work, instead of only trying to help people find jobs, which I do, not as a recruiter, but as a coach, leveraging that part of my background to help job hunters get through a system that is really stacked against them, but help people have the lives that they really want beyond simply work. It should include work but not just simply work.
So, I'll simply say, start asking yourself that question. Who do I want to be when I grow up? What qualities do I want to have? Is my work fulfilling me in this regard.?Is there something I could be doing differently to have the life that I want? If you need help sorting that through ,as I suspect you do, you might start with a husband-wife partner-friend-other individuals who you know, like, trust and respect and if you're still not taking action on it, come to me.I'd love to help you. I coach people for a living to help them have the lives that they want.
If you want to connect with me on LinkedIn start there – – W WW.Linkedin.com /in/TheBigGameHunter.Once we're connected, mention that you're interested in coaching. I'd love to help you.
Also, I want to mention that if you just have a couple of question, there are two ways that I'm now making myself available. If you are an iOS user, there's an app called magnifi (MAGNIFI () ) . where we could have a video chat .The other one, which would be a phone call is Prestoexperts.com look for me there. I'd be happy to take your calls. I'm not always available because I'm coaching people with some regularity, but call me. I'm on the East Coast. Work with that. As you know, I'm not going to take a call at midnight. I'll just simply said try reaching out to me in those ways.
Hope you have a great day. Hope you enjoyed the show and take care.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a coach who worked in recruiting for what seems like one hundred years. He is the head coach for

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

NoBSCoachingAdvice.com. He is the host of “The No BS Coaching Advice Podcast,” “No BS Job Search Advice,” and “Job Search Radio.”

Are you interested in my coaching you?  Email me at [email protected] and put the word, “Coaching” in the subject line.

Subscribe to the “The No BS Coaching Advice Podcast.”

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) https://thebiggamehunter.us/magnifi or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

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For more No BS Coaching Advice, visit my website.

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U.S. Job Openings Topped 7 Million for the First Time

Originally published on wsj.com

Available jobs in August outnumbered unemployed workers by 902,000, also a record

By  Eric Morath

American employers had more than seven million unfilled jobs for the first time on record this summer, reflecting a historically tight labor market that is causing some businesses to struggle to find workers.

There were a seasonally adjusted 7.136 million job openings on the last business day of August, the Labor Department said Tuesday. That extends further into record-high territory for data dating back to 2000.

Available jobs in August outnumbered jobless Americans actively looking for work by 902,000, the largest such gap on record. Prior to March, job openings had never exceeded unemployed workers in more than 17 years of monthly records.

 

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How Do You Attract the Attention of Recruiters From Top Tech Companies?| JobSearchRadio.com


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A person who wrote asking about how they can get someone’s attention to the top tech firm. They went to an average to a mediocre school and they really want to work for such a firm.  On this podcast,I answer this from the perspective of a recent grad as well as the vantage point of an experienced professional.

Summary

How do you attract the attention of recruiters from top tech companies? I'm good answer this for new grads and experienced professionals alike. I'd but I want to read the sub question from the original question I read.

"I'm going to be graduating with a bachelor's degree next year and I'm looking to get into software engineering. I did not go to a well ranked school for computer science. I'm looking for some ideas of how to attract the attention from recruiters."

Let me answer this one, then go to the general computer science grad and then come to experienced people. So the first part is, I didn't go to a great school. How do I attract the attention?

The answer is – – it's probably too late. What you'll need to do is invest some time and do some great work that you noticed in order to get into that top organization. Why? Because they are not there to satisfy you. They are trying to find exquisite talent for their organization. They've come up with criteria that works for them.

You are a stretch at best and probably a loser from their previous experience. That's not a criticism of you; they just come up with formulas that dictate who is going to be successful in their organization. It is not the person who went to the "C" school (by that I mean, like A, B, C, D school; I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt; you went to a mediocre school at best).

They are not there to do social work and make you happy. They are there to solve a problem, right? You are going to have to up your game and instead of doing the mediocre work that caused you to be in the "C" school, you are going to have to step up your game. That's going to be on you.

You can do that in your next job. You can do that by working on projects on the side. However you do it, you're going to have to step up your game so that they want to talk to you.

That's for that person. For the new grad, for this person who hasn't really played big yet, you will have to step up. If you've gone to a top school, you have it easier, not easy because you come with that brand with you. So if you attended Stanford you have a certain amount of recognition that comes with that. They have a positive halo but you have got to deliver the goods (positive halo means that the people that they've hired from that school in the past have been successful in their organization). Think of it from that perspective.

Find the alum from your school who really going to work there and see if you can develop a relationship where they want to refer you. That's the easiest way to get in. From there, it is having a profile that causes them to want to reach out to you. Talk to your career services office to see how they can set you up, IF they can set you up (I'm going pass Stanford at this point, obviously).

Again, previous grads who've gone to work at these firms. Career services. Creating a profile that's attractive that calls attention to you in your work. Reaching out to HR and hiring managers (HR I only bring up from the standpoint of new grads because, most of the time, unless you are being referred by a previous grant or someone that you know there, that's going to be your only way of getting it).

Lastly, for the experienced person, if you've done great work if you are marketing yourself beyond, "I'm in my job. I'm in my silo doing this task. If you are out promoting yourself because your career is part what you do and part market (after all, you know of these firms for a variety of reasons including how they've granted themselves from a career standpoint, right). You have to follow their model and brand yourself and market yourself and promote yourself outside of the cubicle that you work in for your current firm.

Your LinkedIn profile is a small piece. Your public persona. Where you put yourself out is going to be part of this. Where can you connect with people who work at these firms? Where are the speakers from these organizations appear in? Can you get introduced to them there or introduce yourself to you there?

There are lots of different ways to market and promote yourself but the big thing is making sure that the world knows about you. I want to make sure you hear that again – – making sure that the world knows about you… And doing it consistently..

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

 

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Interview Preparation for Employers | No BS Hiring Advice


Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter encourages you to prepare for interviews just like you ask job applicants to prepare for interviews with you.

Summary

I'm back with more no BS hiring advice to help you as an HR professional ,hiring manager or small business owner do an even better job of interviewing and Staffing. Today's tip is about interviewing and it may seem like a small thing but could you really spend about three to five minutes before eachinterview reviewing the resume of the person that you're going to be speaking with for any unique questions to them?
Now,I'm not talking about the standard questions you'd want to use to evaluate someone but there tend to be unique questions that certain resumes engender that you want to be prepared for. Why? Because it's unfair to the candidate If you are left with a nagging doubt that you could have resolved during the course of your interview, but you weren't prepared.
I want to repeat that.
Because you weren't prepared. You see, you expect candidates to go to your company's website, do a certain amount of homework, etc. etc. And you need to be prepared to do what you ask them to do. And I'm just talking about 3 to 5 minutes, which is far less than what a candidate should be spending trying to prepare for you.
Just take some time. See if there's anything peculiar in the background that piques your interest that your standard interview questions would cover and start down the road of exploration during the interview. Often, people have legitimate reasons for all those job changes. It wasn't their fault the economy tanked, but you don't know that unless you ask them about it.
Take the time to review before the interview. Ask them the good questions that are going to flush things out because it will come back and you will wind up missing out on good people just because you were left with nagging doubt because you weren't prepared.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

 

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Applying for Two Different Types of Jobs at the Same Company | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

EP 1263 Does applying to two different kinds of jobs at one company lower your chances of getting either one? 

Summary

Does applying to two different jobs at one company significantly lower your chances of getting each one? I am interested in two different areas (and then they outline both of them). Would it be a bad idea to apply to both of them at the same company? How does the process usually work with processing applications?

Without outlining the specific jobs, I'm going to answer the specific questions.

As to whether reduces your chances by applying to more than one position, well, it depends. I interviewed someone for the show not long ago who was a corporate HR recruiter. He commented that his firm's applicant tracking system was set up to recognize individuals who were, "frequent appliers." In his firm which was a medical facility in the mid-Atlantic states, his firm would get applications from people for multiple positions that they weren't qualified for. The system is set up to block them from applying because they are little more than a spammer to them.

"Yes," you can think, "they may hit on one of them." These people are not paying attention and don't really care about the impact on the person reading the resume; they just want to work for the company. What firms look for our someone who can fill individual job. You can see the disconnect there.

Thus, multiple submissions can have an adverse impact unless you're going to individual hiring managers. So, if you are applying through the applicant tracking system, you're starting to lower your value to them. After all, even if there are two different recruiters handling the two different jobs, the system is going to recognize that you've applied through two different types of position. Even if they look at the resume, there recognize that it's the same person applying for two different jobs, realize that you probably don't fit either of these roles and reject your resumes.

Or they may look at them and think to themselves, "Spammer!" Or they may just simply say, "Huh," and delete your resumes.

So, it can have an adverse impact, it can have a neutral impact, it can have a negative impact, at worst.

Let's review the scenarios:

"Huh?" (rejected).

"Let's consider him for this one, but delete the resumes for the other."

"Spammer!"

There is no situation where they are going to say to themselves, "Fabulous! We received the resume for two different jobs!"

And the probability is that two different recruiters are coordinating two different jobs so there is going to be internal friction so they will have to figure out who is going to be the primary interviewer and who will be the secondary. Remember, corporate recruiters are now being evaluated based upon outcomes, too. Thus, it's not simply you getting hired (which I know is all you really care about); for them, they have metrics they have to live up to and you will probably be wasting their time they could be better served elsewhere.

Continuing, how does the process work with applications? Would I be talking to the same recruiter? I've addressed that already.

The fact that you are submitting your resume to two different positions, involving two separate groups, demonstrates that you're an amateur to them. As such, you are sending a signal to the employer that you don't really have a career yet and are trying to sort things out. After all, in their thinking, you can be interested and qualified in one area, not the other. The fact that you're  leaving it to the winds, to the ether to sort it out for you, sends messages to employers.

Even if the two jobs reflect an old paradigm and a new one, they say are themselves, "Ah! She's trying to make a career change. She's not good be happy doing this old work if we hire her for that." You see, it's not just as simple as whether it is going to one recruiter or two. It is the impact and that message that the recruiter or recruiters is left to interpret. Left to their own devices, recruiters pause, leave the window open and go on to something else. In their subconscious, they try to process the conflicting messages that you are sending by applying for two very different jobs.

Usually, when they pause, they hesitate for lengthy periods of time. When that happens, they come back and re-review the resume and don't act on it then. Eventually, they reject the resume.

Can it turn out differently? Absolutely! How will it probably turn out? Not so good for you. You are far better off zeroing in on one thing you want that you are qualified for and going for that.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

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JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

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EP 1233  I describe what to do if your new dream job turns into a nightmare.

Summary

It happens way too often, but sometimes there's a job that you're interested in, it seems so exciting to you and then you get on board and discover it's not what it was cracked up to be. That's what happened to someone I was representing a while back who declined going on a final interview for me and, instead, accepted a position that she called “her dream job.” Perfectly understandable that she would do this. The show has nothing I’m going to complain about. But the issue is now her dream job as turned into a nightmare. What you do?
So, when you are put in the position of having to deal with this, I think there are couple of simple steps to take that will help you figure out whether this is just a temporary occurrence or something that you need to take action about.
The first thing is just talk with your colleagues to see whether the circumstances you're in or normal or unusual. Sometimes, a firm, sometimes a department or group, is dealing with a crisis of some sort. As such, it's “all hands on deck.” People are scrambling around and all that well-planned, well organized stuff that your future boss was talking with you about is out the window. You may find out that this is going to be a one-week or two-week occurrence every six months or so and that's something that you can tolerate. Or, maybe it’s a one-time thing that they’ve never had happen before and, thus, you can breathe a sigh of relief.
I had one person, years ago, who called me up and, when they followed this advice, learned that they were the fifth person in that seat in the last eight months? 9 months? I don't remember exactly but some short period of time and thus there was a signal in that quite obviously. So, often it's a temporary occurrence and it’s important to find that out.
So, once you know that, from there, meet with your boss and talk about the circumstances and see how long he or she expects this to go on. Sometimes, this change is permanent, like when there is a reorg that is putting the department in a different role and that's happened in the two or three weeks before you started or in some period of time after your conversations with firm have ceased and they’ve gotten into the offer phase and no one has communicated the change to you.
So, if this is a permanent change, then you have a decision to make. Frankly, obviously dust off the resume and start looking for new position. Don't lie about where you're working or speak bitterly. Speak in matter of fact terms that allow people to understand your circumstances.
If some people are going to be horrified about what you've you decided to do, that's fine. More often than not, you're going to get an empathetic response. . . As long as you don't act angry, as long as you don’t go ballistic here. I must, in all candor say, sometimes, employers exaggerate the good qualities of a job without doing a good enough job of describing the difficult parts of it. The result is employees are frequently shocked about what their stepping into. It's unfair and it happens. The question is, what you do about it? I’ve given you two preliminary steps before dusting off your resume-- speaking to colleagues to see if this is atypical and, then from there, speaking to your boss to understand clearly speaking (in speaking to your boss, I’m not about talking about attacking your boss. I’m just trying to understand what's going on because you had a particular impression of the role based upon what he or she said), you just want to understand.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

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Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

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For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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EP 1232 Here’s my thinking.

Summary

I was speaking with a professional resume writer today who is going to appear on my podcast, “Job Search Radio” and the subject of resume length came up in our conversation. She is a big proponent of the one-page resume and her position is that, in her format, where she's got a two column resume, that (#1) is what the document should only one page and that (#2) is your address and such should be on the bottom.

Here’s my thinking. I’m not a big fan of this concept. I’m supposed to see a copy of her template later today. I may change my mind. If so, I will do another video on this, but my belief about resumes is, frankly, the resume should be as long as it needs to be. I'm not looking at a 10 page resume; they never need to be that long. After all, who needs to know what you did back in the Stone Ages?

What you need to think about is “what's going to make case for your candidacy with this employer? What's going to demonstrate that experience and that you faced a particular problem, the actions that you took, the results that you achieved and some measure of what the impact was of your work period” so problem-action-result-measurement / metrics. Something that demonstrates your work is of value to your organization in terms of money saved / money earned or comparing you with others to show that you are an extraordinary employee. Other than that, the length is irrelevant.

I do want to encourage the more relevant stuff to be on the top of page 1 or early on page 1 because, frankly, most people or never going to get further than page down one and maybe page down two. That's it. If they ever print that out, which is a minor miracle that happens, they are not going to see it.

The “however” is, if they are interviewing you, they are going to scroll your resume, looking for additional value and, as such, yes, they may find something more than two-page downs along the way. However, you need to keep the relevant data as early on page 1 as you possibly can for a couple of reasons. Number one is employers skim resumes. Recruiters skim resumes. You want them to be able to find the relevant information quickly on page 1.

Number two. Applicant tracking systems. Often, they try to figure out relevance by how early in the document you demonstrate the experience. So, if it's on page 3 , they think it's antique information, so you always want to get up is early on page one as possible to avoid rejection without human intervention by a system that's been trained to evaluate not just simply whether the skill appears in the document, but by how early it appears in the document in order to determine relevance.

At the end of the day, length isn’t that important. Demonstrating the fit really is. Demonstrating that you are qualified really is. That involves, as I've been saying, it may involve a longer resume. It certainly involves tailored resumes, not just simply sending the same generic resume over and over again to every job you apply for as though that one resumes is going to get you in the door. After all, has that been working for you guy? Sister, are you getting results? Probably not.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.