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What Happens to My Resume After It Is Submitted to a Job Posting? | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


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EP 1459  Here’s how the sausage is made.

Summary

The question I received was, "What happens to my resume after it is received for a job post?" This is like the sausage and how it is made. It is really an ugly process.

Once you've submitted it to a job posting, there are now 2 possibilities. One is when you've submitted through an applicant tracking system; the other one is when it asked to the email a resume. Smaller firms might not have the systems in place and you are emailing a resume.

The applicant tracking system is a filter. It parses your resume and inputs data into their system and may or may not, depending upon the system, score your resume based upon your use of keywords to determine whether or not you are a POSSIBLE FIT. I want to be clear. POSSIBLE FIT.

It is not perfect, obviously, and depending upon the scoring system and how it has been set up, and how the dictionary of terms has been created to evaluate, you may or may not be passed on to THE FIRST HUMAN BEING. Often in corporations and with the search firm that person is representing that business area or that hiring manager who is attempting to fill the position. They are doing a visual scan. Again, if you came in through an applicant tracking system, some systems will never let you get that far because if they are seeing you doing "serial applying" as 1 of my guests on Job Search Radio described or you are applying to lots of different disparate jobs, they are just going to block you and never let that resume get through even if you might be qualified because they have identified that behavior as being reflective of (please excuse my language) bullshit artists.

Assuming that that is not you and you're getting to the 1st level human being who is there to check, with some organizations that could be the hiring manager. Most of the time, it is HR. With smaller firms, it is whoever is "stuck" having to look at resumes. That's the reality to it. It is whoever is "stuck" having to look at resumes because the owner was busy. "You look at the resumes and show me the ones of the people who think fit." That person makes a determination and passes it to the hiring manager or, if it is a search firm or an HR person, they are going to do the 1st screen.

Ultimately, systems are there to save time and, obviously, they are not perfect. They do a lot better as a time-saver then you as a job hunter would prefer that they do. You are applying to jobs because you think they are right.

Now, in some organizations, HR is not even going to interview you on till the hiring manager says to do so. "I want to talk to that person." You are dealing with the ladies all the time, because your resume is going from the applicant tracking system to HR to a hiring manager for home hiring is only 1 of their priorities; they have a job to do. As a result, they are not there sitting by their computer instantly giving responses. They are looking when they have some time. Sometimes that is on their commute. Sometimes it is when they need to take a break. Sometimes it is when they schedule something on your calendar to review resumes. They are trying to work it into their day when they have time that they can take away from their "real job." That is the way they think about. Taking time away from their "real job."

Your resume is an interruption. They may wait for the weekend to review a bunch of resumes. They may wait so the evening. They may wait for their commute. Whatever it is, they are not instantly looking at your resume.

That is what goes on behind the scenes from a process perspective. Some systems may send you questionnaires; some recruiters, both HR and agency recruiters, may send questionnaires to clarify particular parts of your background because your resume wasn't clear enough to them answer those questions because you are not going to get to the interview otherwise.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1400 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was recently named a Top 10 podcast for job search. JobSearchTV.com was also recently named a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Schedule a free Discovery call.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

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The Preferred Application Process | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


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EP 1460. Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter answers a question from someone about the preferred application process.

Summary

There was a question on Quora today., "When applying to jobs, do you prefer filling out forms, one click solutions like on LinkedIn where you can apply using your LinkedIn profile, or a simple career specific email address?"

Let me start by saying that the question has a flaw to it. The flaw is whether you prefer the ease of doing something and you're looking at the question from the job hunter perspective. From the job hunter perspective, everyone wants the one click solution because it involves no effort. But there was a flaw.

The flaw is what gets results? Frankly, one click solutions where they are just sending off your LinkedIn profile, fail more often than not. Because the profile is not tailored to demonstrate what you can do for the organization. It is a generic thing... The same resume sent to job after job. The result is that you are focused on ease of submission; I'm thinking of demonstrating the fit. Employers are thinking of you demonstrating the fit, too.

If your profile happens to do it, great! Unfortunately, most don't. Don't take the lazy way out of here. Submit a resume (or actually contact the hiring manager, finding them using LinkedIn, see if you have a friend who can introduce you) and going in that root, rather than just simply sitting back and saying to yourself, "I would rather just sit back and let someone or something else to all the work... That they don't do.

At the end of the day, the even recruiters want to see something that vaguely looks like what they are trying to find for their clients. Again, don't get lazy about this because you will reap the consequences of that laziness.

Now, you might have the most wonderful skills on the planet but, eventually, it is going to shift and they are not good be quite so dominant. Trust me. There were a lot of Java developers out there who one day ago were heroes and now are ordinary as their skills became commoditized. That is going to happen to you, too,oh, Ruby professional, oh php developer, oh startup maven.. You may be ruling the roost now and hopefully will never need a job again. Your firm may wind up cashing out and you will become a gazillionaire.

However, the question is, what do you prefer? The answer should be, "I prefer a submission that is going to get the best result. One click apply does not do it..

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1400 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was recently named a Top 10 podcast for job search. JobSearchTV.com was also recently named a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Schedule a free Discovery call.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

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You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

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Is It OK To Apply Directly If I Never Heard Back From The Recruiter? | JobSearchRadio.com


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Should I email the recruiter or my interviewer? What are some tips in order to hear back after I email either one of them?

Summary

"If a recruiter reached out to me about a job and I never heard back, is acceptable to apply to the job myself?"

I want you to think for a second. The one detail we don't have is how long it has been since they had the conversation. The next day? NO!!! Let's not be ridiculous. They may need to do a resume rewrite. They may have submitted the resume and the client hasn't had a chance to look at it. There may be some process issues on the client side. You don't know if the resume has been submitted or not.

What I would say to you is, you can do it, BUT there's a better way to do it. What's better is if before you apply directly, call the recruiter and asked them if they've heard back from the client yet.. "Have you heard back from so-and-so?"

"No, I haven't. Let me follow up with them." They may have forgotten. It is not like you are the only candidate use case they are working on. Give them a break! You make mistakes and forget things. They do, too. Call them up and asked them if they have heard back from the client.

If they say, "No, I haven't heard yet."

"Are you going to follow up or is it an indication that the client isn't interested?"

"Probably not interested."

"Did you submit me?"

"Yeah, I submitted you."

Once you have that data that they have applied "best effort," then you can contact the client directly and see if they would be interested. Just don't go to the applicant tracking system. That's goofy. Always apply directly. Find the hiring manager and then apply. If you go to the applicant's tracking system, often what will happen is that you get stuck in the legendary "BLACK HOLE." You will never be heard from again, if you get stuck there. What's the point of that? Come on! The idea is to get an interview and their job. The best way to do it is not by trying to travel through the black hole but through introductions from people to the hiring manager from people who know, like and trust you who are willing to refer you. Barring that, you trying employee of the firm who is in a similar role who can walk over the hiring manager and say, "I spoke to this person. I think it would be interesting to you. Here is a resume. Why don't you talk to them.

Obviously, you will need to do a conversation with them. If you don't know them in order for them to be willing to do that. Remember, they get employee referral bonuses and sometimes other little benefits for referring you, if you are hired.

Step number 1. Call the recruiter and see if they have heard back as to whether you are still in play or have been rejected. If they say, "All! I forgot all about it!," Then asked them if they will give you a call after they've heard from them. You can also ask if you can follow up with them in 2 or 3 days.

From your vantage point, what difference does it make? 2 or 3 days more. No big whoop.

That's my advice and I would simply say there been countless times arrived in the person who has been making the mistake or I've been working with a corporate recruiter who has forgotten to follow up on something.

I hope you found this helpful. There is a lot more at JobSearchCoachingHQ.com. You can ask me questions there and there is content there that you can watch, listen to or read that will help you find work more quickly.

Look forward to helping you. I hope you have a great day. Take care.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1400 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was recently named a Top 10 podcast for job search. JobSearchTV.com was also recently named a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Schedule a free Discovery call.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions. 

Job Search Radio
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You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

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Is It OK To Apply to Multiple Positions at the Same Company? | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

EP 1433 There are 3 possible scenarios I address with my answer.

Summary

The question for today is, "Is it okay to apply for multiple positions at the same company?" I have to make the answer textured because there are a lot of variables that aren't offer here.

1st of all, to get this out of the way, why are you applying to jobs? If you are applying to an applicant tracking system, you are in the great black hole, that system is that is not there to help you, yada yada yada. You can watch any number of my videos were I tell people never ever apply to a job to an applicant tracking system.

Since you want to do this, let me talk with you about the variables. Are you doing the application at the same time for these different positions? For example have you seen a group of positions today and want to apply it to them all? That's one variable. Another variable is that you employed from one job and 2 weeks later another position opened up, 3 weeks after that 1/3 position opens up… There is some space involved. Another one has you going in with a shotgun approach and you are applying for everything. You want to be an intern. You want to be chief operating officer. You want to be a lot of different things and you are just applying the heck out of this firm. Those of a few of the variables and will walk through them with you.

You are doing the shotgun approach. Don't do it. You're not qualified for most of positions you are applying for. All you are doing is acting like a spammer. Don't do it. Invariably, is someone I know wrote recently, they will take your resume, deleted, block it, and keep you from ever interviewing with their firm because you will be rejected as a "serial applier." I remember someone I interviewed on "Job Search Radio," said that to me. They worked in a medical facility and found these people a colossal waste of time.

Let's say there's a position open now and one that opens 2 weeks from now and another one, 3 weeks from now. Your background legitimately fits. By all means, apply because you don't know if there are different hiring managers involved who might see different things in your background. Don't apply for the 2nd or 3rd position. If you are ready interviewing for the 1st 1. Managers are not going to compete for you.

I want to repeat that. Managers are not going to compete for you.

All that happens is that HR notices this and asked themselves, "What are they doing? We have them in process now?" You turn people off when you do stuff like that.

I believe the 3rd alternative was that you were just going in and applying for 25 positions that have the open now. I spend a little bit differently the 1st time I presented the option but you get the idea. Pick the ones that you are best suited for. Do not, I repeat, do not apply to 25 different jobs. All you do is waste people's time and people look at you like you are an idiot.

I have given 3 alternatives. If you know of others, let me know.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1400 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was recently named a Top 10 podcast for job search. JobSearchTV.com was also recently named a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Schedule a free Discovery call.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions. 

NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com
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Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search,

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order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

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Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

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Can I Apply for a Job If I Was Turned By The Company? | JobSearchTV.com


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There are a few things to consider if you do.

Summary

Now, here, somebody asked me a question, "Can I apply for a job if I was turned down by the company?"

Now, we don't know where in the process, this person was turned down. So, I'm going to try and dissect it in a couple of different words. If you submitted a resume to a firm and you never got a response, that's a form of being turned down, right? So, certainly, you can do it, but it tells you that their applicant tracking system (And by the way, never apply for a job through an applicant tracking system. Always try and find the hiring manager first), but given that you've done this once, you should learn a lesson from it. The lesson is that your resume didn't make a strong enough case for your fit.

This time, you've got to tweak it again, to make the fit obvious. You see, these systems want to see the right experience and the systems want to see it early in the resume, not later. Or, if you keep doing this over and over again, the systems may mark you as a 'serial applyer."

In other words, it's a form of digital spam. You don't want to be in that position. So, number one, try and apply directly to the hiring manager by finding them through the organization. And number two is if you're going to use the applicant tracking system, do a better job of showing the fit. You can also add in better use of keywords in that.

Now, if you were turned down after an in person interview, then we've got a different situation? Are you applying for the exact same job with the exact same manager? Well, you've already had one interview. You can call HR in all probability and ask, "is this a position with so and so? Do you think they might be open to talking with me again? The probability is they won't return your call. The "However" is if you were a close second in the search, and they've told you, "Oh, you came so close to getting the job. Oh," then what happens is, you can call and say, "Hey, let me try running that by them," might be the response.

If it's a different position with a different manager that has a similar requirement, I don't see that there's going to be an issue. But, obviously, you need to have performed well on the first interview. If you came in like a lightweight and they were looking for somebody much stronger, you hurt your possibilities on this second go around because why should they give you a second chance for a similar type of position? They may have graded you far too Junior for them. The likelihood is they won't hire you again.

So, to answer the question, yes, you can do it but follow these conditions because they do make a difference as to whether or not you might actually be interviewed.

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ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1400 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was recently named a Top 10 podcast for job search. JobSearchTV.com was also recently named a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Schedule a free Discovery call.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions. 

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Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

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You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

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Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Preparing to Job Search: Do This Before Submitting Your Resume | JobSearchTV.com


Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter demands that you do this before you send out any resume.

Summary

You are responding to an ad that you heard about. You heard something about a position open at a networking event you went to. Now you're going to send your resume in.

Before you send it out, read your resume carefully and look for this – – how is my resume actually demonstrate that I fit this role?

What in my background will come across In the resume that is going to cause them to say, "Ah! . This person can do the job!"

If you cannot answer the question, your resume needs a rewrite for this job. Otherwise, all you are doing is sending out spam. You know,, the broken watch is right twice a day-- maybe a work sometimes, maybe it doesn't. Most of the time it doesn't.

For you, just ask yourself the question. Don't give yourself a BS answer. Be forthright with yourself. How is your resume actually show that you fit the job and how far does someone have to read in order to find it? if you think it is on page 2, move it on to page 1.You have to use your cover letter to draw attention to it so that they know to read there.

Otherwise, it is a waste of time.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter demands that you do this before you send out any resume.

Summary

You are responding to an ad that you heard about. You heard something about a position open at a networking event you went to. Now you're going to send your resume in.

Before you send it out, read your resume carefully and look for this – – how is my resume actually demonstrate that I fit this role?

What in my background will come across In the resume that is going to cause them to say, "Ah! . This person can do the job!"

If you cannot answer the question, your resume needs a rewrite for this job. Otherwise, all you are doing is sending out spam. You know,, the broken watch is right twice a day-- maybe a work sometimes, maybe it doesn't. Most of the time it doesn't.

For you, just ask yourself the question. Don't give yourself a BS answer. Be forthright with yourself. How is your resume actually show that you fit the job and how far does someone have to read in order to find it? if you think it is on page 2, move it on to page 1.You have to use your cover letter to draw attention to it so that they know to read there.

Otherwise, it is a waste of time.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1300 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering

Job Search Radio
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your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

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You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
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potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

Should I Apply for a Job At Half My Previous Salary? | JobSearchRadio.com


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Should I apply for a job at half the salary I once earned given I”m almost 60 and the options are slim?

Summary

Here's a question I received through quora.   I want to read the full question..

"Should apply for job at half the salary I once earned, given that I'm almost 60 and the options are slim?"

We don't know what this person does professionally;  we just know that they don't have choices.

So I get a look at a few scenarios.  You make $150,000 per year And want to look at a job paying $75,000 per year.  You are a $200,000 a year person  looking at a job paying $100,000 per year.  You are a $100,000 a year person looking at a job paying  50.

Here's the reality to it.  In most of these scenarios, you're not qualified to do the job  at a lower level, nor firm is going to hire you because they are not going to trust whether or not  you are going to jump ship when the market for what you do gets better.

I want to help you and, I have said this in videos that I've done, if you are not getting interviews, the problem is your resume.  If you are getting interviews and not invited back, the problem is you don't interview as well as you think you do.  If you are being invited back for 2nd interviews but not getting job offers, you don't have good relationship skills with senior professionals.  Lastly,  if the situation  is that you are getting offers are coming in  lower than what you wanted, you may not be the 1st choice and they are basically saying, "Screw it.  Let's give him a shot and see if he will come in at a lesser price."

It's easy to blame the market Again, we don't know what you do..  Perhaps, you don't have skills that are particularly viable. After all, you may be a $50,000 a year person looking at jobs paying $25,000 per year. That's possible, for example, in social work where you may be a manager at an agency, and are now looking at positions as a caseworker.  You can do that.  You will probably need some refresher because you have been doing oversight for people and haven't been sitting opposite someone Doing case management for a long time.

Recognize that, as a more experienced person, you may no longer have the qualifications  to do the staff level position and you are going to need to be proactive to get the skills up to speed in order to be effective.

So, again, you can do it, but it is not likely to work.

You also say that the opportunities are relatively slim..  I am going to work with another assumption here.

You are passively bringing age discrimination into the conversation and you are using that as the excuse for why you are not getting hired.   It is certainly possible, but, more than likely,, you are not selling yourself real well when you are meeting with the younger manager, either male or female. You are looking across the desk and thinking, "Shit!  They are 30 years old.  They are not going to be interested in me." That's going on in your subconscious and, unfortunately, that's a mistake. There are ways to deal with that issue  but you are not going  into the interview "all in."

That's what you need to be.  All in in these situations.

Hear me out.  Try it.   Go all in.  Push yourself. Don't cop to the belief that it's 60 you're not employable.  I speak from the perspective of  being older than you are and  have worked in search for more than 40 years.  People  would hire me in a heartbeat because they know how talented and successful I am. On an interview, you have to make sure they learn how talented you are.

So get out there  and raise some cane on your interviews and don't use excuses.

Now there was one other phrase that you used – – "options are slim."

You may only be looking on job boards.   When you only look at job boards, there are a finite number of jobs.  You are not out there doing network.  You are staring at the same things coming up over and over again  and saying to yourself, "the options are slim."

In fact, job boards fill, depending upon the statistics you look at, 3 to 6% of all positions..  Recruiters fill another 20 to 25%..  Between the 2, they fill between 30 and 32% of all positions.  The rest are filled by networking.   Of those, approximately 70%, The statistics also say 70% of the 70%  are filled as a result of introductions to people That you didn't know at the beginning of the job search.

You have to go network. You need to talk to people and be referred  to absolute strangers and practice doing informational interviews and practice networking. Get out there.  No excuses.  Don't surrendering to this,, "oh woe is me,," attitude that is implicit in your question. Get hungry again.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1300 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was recently named a Top 10 podcast for job search. JobSearchTV.com was also recently named a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

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You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

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Applying for Two Different Types of Jobs at the Same Company | JobSearchRadio.com


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EP 1263 Does applying to two different kinds of jobs at one company lower your chances of getting either one? 

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

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You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Applying for a Job From Your Phone? | JobSearchRadio.com


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http://webtalkradio.net/internet-talk-radio/2017/03/20/applying-for-a-job-from-your-phone/

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter explains the best way to apply for a job from your phone.

Summary

A lot of websites allow you to use LinkedIn or a profile from all from indeed or from another site in order to apply for a position. Not the best way to do it. Why? Because at the end of the day, your resume needs to be customized and I have seen enough LinkedIn profiles submitted to me that I know most of them don't do a good enough job of selling the person's credentials.

Here's what you do instead.

Set up a dropbox account, set up a Google drive account. When it comes time to apply, submit your resume from dropbox or Google drive. Send them a link to either one. Other way will work fine. Don't just send the profile.

As I said on another video, the easiest way to do something often isn't the best way for you or for them. Don't waste your time by sending an inadequate document to them.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1300 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Do This Before Submitting Your Resume | JobSearchRadio.com


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http://webtalkradio.net/internet-talk-radio/2017/04/19/do-this-before-submitting-your-resume/

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter demands that you do this before you send out any resume.

Summary

You are responding to an ad that you heard about. You heard something about a position open at a networking event you went to. Now you're going to send your resume in.

Before you send it out, read your resume carefully and look for this – – how is my resume actually demonstrate that I fit this role?

What in my background will come across In the resume that is going to cause them to say, "Ah! . This person can do the job!"

If you cannot answer the question, your resume needs a rewrite for this job. Otherwise, all you are doing is sending out spam. You know,, the broken watch is right twice a day-- maybe a work sometimes, maybe it doesn't. Most of the time it doesn't.

For you, just ask yourself the question. Don't give yourself a BS answer. Be forthright with yourself. How is your resume actually show that you fit the job and how far does someone have to read in order to find it? if you think it is on page 2, move it on to page 1.You have to use your cover letter to draw attention to it so that they know to read there.

Otherwise, it is a waste of time.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1300 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering

Job Search Radio
Job Search Radio

your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.