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Having Trouble Negotiating? | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

EP 1218 Try this little trick if you are having trouble negotiating for yourself.

Summary

This is a tip for when you're struggling with a negotiation. Maybe you haven't done a lot of negotiating before. Maybe you are just afraid of negotiating. A lot of people are. Here’s a little trick I want to suggest. This came from a recent conversation with my mother-in-law.

She was selling a place in Florida; she got and offer for as little bit less than she wanted. You have to move out during “the season” which was the big thing for her. She wouldn’t be able to get her car back up north in time.

So, I suggesting that you pretend she was negotiating for one of her grandkids and that she was trying to look out for the grand kid and what their interests are? Could she do that? You bet you she could! And that's where I lead to you.

If you were negotiating for someone else-- a friend, if you were negotiating for a parent who was ill and speaking with the doctors, you can do that, right? I am going to suggest that you treat yourself like that parent that you are negotiating for and negotiate on their behalf.

Don't personalize this. Negotiate for the other person. Drive the best deal that you can. As was the case here with my mother-in-law, she was able to do this pretty easily once she got that trap out of her mind of, “OH! THAT FEAR!!!, “ that sometimes become so pervasive and persuasive that you might do it wrong and blow the deal or what have you.

Trust yourself. You'll do fine, especially if you act like you are negotiating for someone else.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Give Me One Good Reason Why I Should Increase The Offer? | JobSearchTV.com


You have two offers. The better job came in lower and you really want to take it but you don’t want to leave money on the table. What can you say to negotiate it being improved?

Summary

Someone describe the situation to me that they were wrestling with. They have an offer. The firm came in less than what another offer is and they want to know how to respond. So, they’ve got two offers. A higher one and a lower one. The lower one is the better job. They started to say something to the effect of “There is a wide gap here between your offer and another one I have but, I prefer this job. If you can match that other offer. I'd be happy to join. I will commit to it today. Sign whatever paperwork you need . . . Yada yada yada.

The hiring manager responded by saying something that translates into, “I can work on that. Give me one good reason why I should do that.” The person wound up in brain cramp and did what a lot of people do which sounds like the interview version of begging. “I’ll work so hard! I’ll be a good employee! I’ll care about my job! I need the money! I’ve got a lot of expenses and I need the money!” All that happens is they just sound ridiculous and no one really cares.

So, understand that the promise to be a great employee is what's expected and that you have a lot of expenses, they don't really care about. If you promise to work 24x7 you are just a liar because you or not going to do that. So, what can you do, what can you say and that's the basic theme behind this.

The notion that you are a distance apart is really the key response that you have. “I have another offer from another firm.” Or my own firm is talking about giving me a raise. I should have the raise within two weeks period I’m prepared to say, “ yes,” the other offer /the raise should bring me to (whatever the number is; the raise would bring me to and then you give them a sense of the numbers). I’m not asking you to give me $50,000 more (unless that’s really what the other offer is for) but what I'm asking to do is to match. Unfortunately, I would have to turn down your offer, even though I really prefer the role because I’m not independently wealthy. Money is a factor for me. I would be kidding you if I said anything to the contrary. All I am asking you do is match the other offer and I will commit to joining.”

Now, that's a sincere approach because they'll understand very clearly that you want to join. You are saying you will join. This is a tactic I’ve used when I did recruiting and I had people do this for themselves because they were put on the spot.

I just told him very simply, you may not have noticed this, but there's no one with my last name on the list of wealthiest Americans in Forbes or in Fortune. My income is basically my value or what I need to support myself. It is not a big difference but, fundamentally, it is for me because I'm working to earn a living as well as do great work. I’ll simply say I would encourage you to match the other offer.

Now, if you are really feeling pointed, you can simply say, “the cost of going back and interview and reengage in this process or hiring the person who is second best, there is something in your mind that differentiated me from them. There is certainly an expense of going back and interviewing; it takes you away from your work; it takes your team away to evaluate people and, frankly, wouldn’t you rather just be done with it?

That works very well at a senior level. At average “Jane and Joe level,” just stick with the first half of it as I outlined. It works.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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No BS Job Search Advice: Run Your Race! | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


Listen to the full episode here:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thebiggamehunter/2018/08/17/no-bs-job-search-advice-run-your-race-nobsjobsearchadvicecom

EP 1199 What do I mean by, “run your race,” in the context of job hunting and your career?

Summary

When I think of job hunting, frankly, it is like walking into a casino for most of you and sitting there the tables. You don't really know the rules. Thus, you are easy pickings for the casino. Even if you do know the rules and how to play the game, most of the time, the casino is going to make money on you no matter what.

Understand that the way job is stacked right now, you're playing a game that is rigged against you. What can you do?

Obviously, you can refuse to comply, but eventually you'll be chewed up by the system. You can refuse to comply by refusing to apply for job through an applicant tracking system until you spoken to hiring manager. It's an easy way to do it on your room.

The real thing though is about attitude. You see, the Attitude that you have been instilled with is the one being the compliant employee. And fitting in. And doing what is demanded of you every step along the way to the point where you are a little cube you're being fitting amongst other cubes. In job hunting, Ideally from your vantage point, it is best to learn what the rules are and play your own game. Let me give you an example from sports.

Football teams. Basketball teams. Baseball teams There are lots of set plays That are involved. There are also lots of situations that they practice in order to put themselves in the position to put themselves in a position to execute the basic game plan, right? There is a lot of creativity and originality within those frameworks. You need to find the place for organizations respect you and your unique way of doing things.

If you want to be a drone, by all means… Do it. You can have messages piped into your head all day about being compliant doing what is demanded of you. Shut up. Do we tell you to do and don't have any original thoughts. Or, you can do things in your particular way and be sought out by firms. You see, LinkedIn is 1 of the greatest tools that we have in our modern times because it allows firms to reach out to you and for you to call more shots.

Remember, they are hunting for talent. If they want a person to fit into a box, that doesn't mean that you want to fit into a box, does it? I want to think in terms of a race. The race has a finish line – – the end of your career. How do you want to run the race? Do you know what could happen along the way? Do you know how to get you from where you are now and how to get to the finish line?

If you don't, you need to learn quickly. Let me give you an example. I was doing online coaching call I blab.im on the platform was still up. It is on YouTube as "No BS Coaching: Play Your Game Big!" At the end of the day, this person wants to move in the direction for their career a little bit differently than the obvious path. I spoke about informational interviews and you said, "Yeah, I have one scheduled." I asked him, "How about 5? How about 10? You can't just take one person's viewpoint for how to get to the finish line. And, even if the viewpoint is right, maybe it is right for you."

One thing I've learned over the course of the years in recruiting is that everything works in job search. It never works as well as we would like or as often as we would like but, at the end of the day, everything works. You may be turned down for a bunch of jobs but, eventually, you will find one that fits you. If it's your drive. It fits your ambition. If it's the kind of career goals that you have. Run the race in your particular way. Don't worry about what recruiters might tell you because a lot of them will tell you that you doing it all wrong. "It is a terrible mistake you're making! GROAN!"

Your job is to make a work recruiter a fee. YYour job is to make the corporate recruiter happy. Your job is to make yourself happy. Don't sell out your own ambitions for what the company wants.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for what more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1100 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Discussing Money | JobSearchTV.com


Most of the advice you will receive about discussing salary is guaranteed to get you rejected at the interview.

NOTE: I NO LONGER DO RECRUITING. IN ADDITION, THERE ARE SOME PLACES IN THE US WHERE IT IS NOW ILLEGAL TO ASK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE EARNING

Summary

Today, I want to talk with you about salary negotiation, discussing money, the job offer . . . Stuff along those lines but particularly in the area of money.

Now, let me just start by saying that most of the advice that you read on the web about discussing money is going to be a problem for you because it basically always tells you never to talk about money. Never tell them how much you are earning. Never discuss how much you are looking for . . . stuff along those lines.

For the typical job hunter (and, again, I'm not talking about Donald Trump), I'm talking about most of you who are going to be watching this video, that advice is going to get you escorted out the door act most organizations. Why? Because they want to know. Why? Very simply, they want to know that whether your compensation is within their budget. It’s really that simple. So, avoiding that conversation ticks them off and is 1 of the surest ways to get you the interview abruptly ended that I can imagine.

So, how do you deal with money? I want to differentiate between the employer and the recruiter as I answer this question. With the 3rd party recruiter, I always want to tell them how much I'm making and how much I will be earning. Why? It's not because I was a recruiter. Very simply, they need to know whether a job that they're working on is a fit for you potentially.

If you're making radically less than what that job is, you are going to need to justify why you're the right value for it. Let me explain why. Most the time, (I'm just to give an exaggerated example), the $40,000 person looking at the $80,000 job.

“I'm underpaid.”

“Why are you underpaid you? Explain to me exactly how come your underpaid vis a vis this role.”

“I can do this job.”

“Yeah?”

“Well, I work at a company no is ever heard the name of before and I want to work at a big company that will pay me a lot more.”

It doesn't work that way. Small companies don't have the kind of environments the big companies do and, as a result, big firms devalue the experience of smaller firms. So, you are going to have to come up with a better explanation. If you're an IT person, you are going to talk about how your experience really fits the role and that because you worked in a smaller firm, they didn't have the budget to pay to that level, but other firms will and you want to be compensated fairly.

You may not get to the top end of the range, but you get close to it. But, in talking with the recruiter, that's really where you are going to practice know how you are going to pitch yourself as being worth such a strong salary increase.

With the Corporation, if you working with a recruiter, they've already covered that. The Corporation may try and test that a little bit but stick to your guns and stick to your explanation for why you're worth that money.

If you are an executive it's a different scenario. You really don't talk about money. I'm not talking about someone at a manager or VP level period I'm talking C level executives because, frankly, no one is going to argue with you over money and, if they do, this is probably the wrong organization for you.

But for those who were at a lower level, money always comes into play. And as I said, if you avoid discussing it, if you refuse to answer the question, frankly, the interview is going to end.

So, again, on the corporate side, you do something a little bit different than you do with the agency recruiter. You may talk with them about what you're currently earning. You may tell them that what you looking for is the strongest offer and if they decide that you're the right person for them (and this certainly seems like a great opportunity for you) you are going to encourage them to make their strongest offer. That is one way of broaching it.

Now, in the example of the $40,000 person looking for the $80,000 job, you have to be very calm as you answer the question and understand that some firms are just are not going to do it. That may not be an answer that you want to hear, but it's factually correct.

Some firms are just not going to give you the $75,000 that you may want if you making $40,000 and you need to be prepared to walk away from an opportunity might otherwise like because the money isn't right. If you our not prepared to do it, don’t make money the sticking point.

But as you talk with a firm, just simply tell them this is what you really looking for, but understand you are willing to be h flexible period you are not going to be a fool and take 45 knowing full well that they were prepared to pay more. You want to be treated fairly by them and you are willing to reduce the comp a little bit and give them a bit of a discount if you judge the opportunity is right for you.

At the same time, you want to hit the market value because, up until this point, you haven’t been paid that way.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for what more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1100 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Your Best Position for Negotiating Salary | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


Listen to the full episode here:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thebiggamehunter/2018/06/25/your-best-position-for-negotiating-salary-nobsjobsearchadvicecom

EP 1146 Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter discusses your most advantaged position for negotiating salary and how to play it.

Summary

You need to understand that with most organizations, they have salary guidelines that HR and hiring managers works with. It's not like they can take you from making $80,000 per year and give you $160,000. No matter how good you are, it just doesn't work that way.

With big companies, the basic strategy is always that you should get two offers. Not one but two. You have to time this out around the same time so that in this way, there's a certain amount of pressure on the employer. After all, from their standpoint, they have spent a lot of money interviewing and assessing candidates and deciding that you are the right one.

What you want to be doing is getting two firms in play. They're not going to bid aggressively against one another. It's not like they're going to say, "We're going to offer you $120,000."

"We are going to offer you one $130,000."

"When you change your mind and we're going to offer you $140,000!"

They will work to exceed something; don't talk with you about some of the benefits that they offer you. They may "goose" certain things but when push comes to shove in the big company market, normally, the lowball bidder tries to match the highball bidder. They can go back to the highball firm and say, "I have 2 offers at the same level. I prefer yours. Can you do a touch better?"

Watch my video called, "The Easiest Way to Negotiate A Higher Salary for Yourself." What that technique will do is get them to boost the offer little bit more so that you up the ante.

Now, at small companies, you get two offers, a big company and a small company, often the small company will do a little bit better, but they will never really match the big company. The big company just has deeper pockets. Maybe you'll get more benefits, more stock options, more things along those lines that will turn you on.

Recognize that a small company or a start up, sometimes their reaction is to go, "You know, if you are considering that another firm, you are not our kind of person." You have to be cautious with small firms when you are doing small company versus big company competing situations.

Two small companies. 2 startups. They get into (excuse my language) pissing wars with one another where they are beating down the other firms ideas, where they are talking with you about how good they are. You really need to bring them back to the money.

"I really appreciate more options here."

"Well, this is what we give out to people."

"I know. AND I would like more options here. I would like to get more money."

Do something that pushes them. Whoever comes in a little bit higher, that's the one you go to.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for what more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1100 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us and click the relevant tab on the top of the page.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Negotiating an Above Average Salary Offer | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


Listen to the full episode here:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thebiggamehunter/2018/06/18/negotiating-an-above-average-salary-offer

EP 1139 Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter explains how to negotiate an above average salary offer from the get go.

Summary

There is a lot of advice that you get talking about researching the salary range for position like yours. I will work with some general things; please understand I'm just using this as an example.

Let's say that the salary range that you're looking at is $100,000-$125,000. If you are entering into a negotiation, and you quote that figures to them, the employer is immediately going to zero in on $100,000 and, in point of fact, you are zeroing in on $125,000.

I'm not going to tell you to shave the numbers for them and take out that $100,000 and switch it to $115,000-$125,000. The same problem will occur. I want you to go directly at it and very simply say, "if you do some research, you'll see a whole host of numbers. A few of them mention $100,000. Most of them talk about a higher range, probably closer to one $125,000. I want to be clear with you. I'm not an average performer. I am clearly up an above average performer. As a result, these average numbers are below what my expectations are. I'm looking for something from you that shows me that you really see my value because, as I have done before, I can do for you, too, or better."

Notice what I've done? I acknowledge the average numbers. I will also say, "I'm not average. I'm above average. I've done it before. I want to do it again and do it for you." And you are not settling.

You don't want to be seen as the average. You always want to be seen as the above average. Remember, at the end of the day, you can always cave-in, right? And you can always say no. Initially, when you doing the salary negotiation or if you're being interviewed and they are starting to think in their minds what your value is based upon your previous earnings, they are always going to zero in on lower numbers and you always want to be pushing them at the earliest point to higher numbers.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for what more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1100 episodes,“ Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us and click the relevant tab on the top of the page.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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The Biggest Salary Negotiation Mistake Job Hunters Make | JobSearchTV.com


Job hunters make a huge mistake in a negotiation with firms in through recruiters. Here, I outline what it is and how it affects you (as well as how to do it differently).

Summary

I just want to speak to you today about what is is the biggest salary negotiation mistake job. I want to preface this by saying recruiters-- agency recruiters, corporate recruiters, all understand the principle taught from the movie Glenn Gary Glenn Ross, a fabulous movie and play; you've never seen it, watch it sometime. It helped launch Alec Baldwin as an actor. As I just said, there is a scene where you hear Baldwin talks about “the ABC of sales” and ABC stands for, “ always be closing.”

Employers and recruiters understand that you don't close at the end of the sale. You close from the from the very beginning. I am not talking but heavy-handed closing; it can be a very gentle close. So, it really starts off, “what are you looking for in the way of salary? How much are you making,” and how they respond to that knowing what the salary ranges for the position. So, for you is the job hunter, the mistakes you make are really in a series that leads up to the big 1.

The 1st 1 is you don't have an idea of your value in the marketplace. So, what you decide to do is walk in and believe that you are earning X number of dollars and you accept the notion that you are only entitled to Y number of dollars on top of that. That's because you don't research the market for what you do and, as a result, you walk in like a babe in the woods and accept the fact that . . . Well, you don't even notice the fact that they are trying to elicit information from you about what you're looking for. Thus, because you don't have knowledge, you are acting in an ignorant manner, you offer up a salary range because you've always been coached to give a range, right? That’s because you don't really know the market, you take other peoples’ word who have an ulterior motive in the scenario and accepted what they tell you as what your value is. You haven't done wrong on homework or done your own research. You have listened to the recruiter. You listened to the corporation and they've identified the value for you as “that's the price that they're willing to pay” through the corporate side or, from the agency's side, that's the price that they know their client is willing to pay. So, you are getting boxed in at the beginning.

So, most of you arrive and give a salary range. I’m just going to pick two numbers arbitrarily-- $150 to $160 or $100 to $120 and, if you are looking at a job ad and you saw there is a salary range there (I’m going to pick 100 K to 120 K going forward), you zero in on the 120, right and rightly so. You see the range; you want to get the most that you can, but they do the same thing and the result winds up being, when you the offer a range of 100K - $220K, the employer hears the bottom number, knowing that that would be okay and they are always going to be driving you to that point.

So, the mistake really comes down to don't talk about a range. Know your value. Know what the market pays for what you do and, as a result, ask for that number. Be prepared that, it's possible, that they might come in little bit less and that's okay. At the end of the day, what you want to be doing is knowing your real value, knowing what you should be getting, asking for it right then at the beginning of the process, not waiting until the very end when they have already established what they are going to pay and it may not satisfy you.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for what more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1100 episodes,“ Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us and click the relevant tab on the top of the page.

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Your Best Position for Negotiating Salary | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

EP 1146 Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter discusses your most advantaged position for negotiating salary and how to play it.

Summary

You need to understand that with most organizations, they have salary guidelines that HR and hiring managers works with. It's not like they can take you from making $80,000 per year and give you $160,000. No matter how good you are, it just doesn't work that way.

With big companies, the basic strategy is always that you should get two offers. Not one but two. You have to time this out around the same time so that in this way, there's a certain amount of pressure on the employer. After all, from their standpoint, they have spent a lot of money interviewing and assessing candidates and deciding that you are the right one.

What you want to be doing is getting two firms in play. They're not going to bid aggressively against one another. It's not like they're going to say, "We're going to offer you $120,000."

"We are going to offer you one $130,000."

"When you change your mind and we're going to offer you $140,000!"

They will work to exceed something; don't talk with you about some of the benefits that they offer you. They may "goose" certain things but when push comes to shove in the big company market, normally, the lowball bidder tries to match the highball bidder. They can go back to the highball firm and say, "I have 2 offers at the same level. I prefer yours. Can you do a touch better?"

Watch my video called, "The Easiest Way to Negotiate A Higher Salary for Yourself." What that technique will do is get them to boost the offer little bit more so that you up the ante.

Now, at small companies, you get two offers, a big company and a small company, often the small company will do a little bit better, but they will never really match the big company. The big company just has deeper pockets. Maybe you'll get more benefits, more stock options, more things along those lines that will turn you on.

Recognize that a small company or a start up, sometimes their reaction is to go, "You know, if you are considering that another firm, you are not our kind of person." You have to be cautious with small firms when you are doing small company versus big company competing situations.

Two small companies. 2 startups. They get into (excuse my language) pissing wars with one another where they are beating down the other firms ideas, where they are talking with you about how good they are. You really need to bring them back to the money.

"I really appreciate more options here."

"Well, this is what we give out to people."

"I know. AND I would like more options here. I would like to get more money."

Do something that pushes them. Whoever comes in a little bit higher, that's the one you go to.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for what more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1100 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us and click the relevant tab on the top of the page.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

Your Worth | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


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EP 1113 On this show,  I walk through a simple technique that anyone can do to establish your value.

Summary

This video is entitled, "Your Worth." Your worth is consistently 1 of the things that people undervalue and they do so for one very simple reason – – they don't understand their value. They go into the job market and decide they are looking for a certain percentage increase over what they currently earn without making any comparisons.

Comparisons have value and I understand that employers attempt to value you based upon previous salary. After all, they are not going to take a $65,000 per your person and pay them $135,000, or are they? Not unless they go into consulting 1st and establish themselves as earning $65-$90 per hour . In which case, at $65, they are earning $130,000 per year and at $90 per hour they are earning $180,000 per year. Then, they will try to drop you down.

What can you do to establish your value?

The 1st thing you need to do is to establish it in your own mind. You need to understand how you compare with others. You are not going to find that out online. You're going to find out by talking to hiring managers and other organizations to get a sense of how they would value you and your skills without telling them necessarily that you are looking for job but you just want to try get a sense of how they would evaluate you. For example, don't tell them what you are currently earning; just asked him to give you a sense of what your capabilities are and how they would assess you. That's a more valuable benchmark for any online survey you might ever read.

After all, the surveys are very limited. They may offer a job title; they may offer skill set. There is no depth in that. For example, if you are in IT and it says, "Java developer," what does that really say? There are tons of different tools to go along with that.

How do you get that sense? The 1st place is internally so that in this way, you are persuasive with someone else. Then, from there, I think the 2nd places during the waiting. A lot of job hunters do things that devalue themselves and often that occurs during the waiting process. They become anxious they REALLY want it. Their desperation comes across and kind of like the guy or girl in a dating situation who is waiting by the phone pining for that person to call them to the point where they turn into a stalker who called for 5 different times in a short period of time to try to flush out that person they were out with, you don't want to come across as being desperate. Desperation doesn't work, does it?

You will like it. After all, if you walked into a car dealership and the salesperson tried to push you into buying a car or they were selling life insurance and they try to push you into a policy, employers don't like it and hiring managers don't like it. So why do you act desperate?

You have to control yourself and the best way to do that is to go out on more "dates." By dates, I'm referring to interviews. By doing this, you get a sense of your value. You get a sense of how others perceive you and how that engenders more interesting you. The more interest you get, the better you will feel, the more value you will have and the more persuasiveness you will deliver when talking about your value to others.

You see, it's not just enough that you know your value. That's the starting place. You need to convince other people of your value in the 1st way to do it is with YOUR attitude. Your attitude says a lot to the employer. It says, "Hey, look, I would love to work for you, but there are other fish in the sea, too." That's the same as what they communicate to you, right? "Hey, we'd love to hire you, but were to talk to 25 more people before we circle back and maybe, ask you out again." You have to have your equivalent as well.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for what more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1000 episodes,“ Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us and click the relevant tab on the top of the page.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

Salary Negotiation Advice from a Hostage Negotiator | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


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EP 1109 Have you ever been in the situation where someone you negotiating with suddenly changes their position? Chris Voss has and here I provide you with two tactics to use when you are confronted with this.

Summary

I was listening to a podcast today where Chris Voss was being interviewed. Chris is a former FBI hostage lead negotiator. I can't say he's a tough guy; I never met him but he has certainly stepped into some interesting situations.

He was talking about situations where people wind up dealing with someone who suddenly changes their positions. It is obviously talking about hostage negotiation, but it could be interesting if your job hunter or an employer who changes their position on something. Your employer and a job hunter comes back with something that is a new demand or request. The third circumstance occurs when your business and your selling something; a person who you are selling something to suddenly change their minds or position about it. You're trying to recapture the situation.

Voss came up with a great response to that. Actually, there are two of them that I really liked. The first one requires that you are imagining that your job hunter or an employer who is suddenly talking with you about different money or your employer and now they're countering with more money. Here's is a response:

"Sounds like you trying to teach me that I can't rely on what you're saying." BOING!!! How. Do you respond to that if your employer who is being told that by a job hunter , because your issuing or about to issue a lower job offer after leading them to believe that you are going to get a higher number? If her employer dealing with the job hunter, can you imagine throwing that one into the mix when a job hunters trying to up the offer?

"Sounds like you trying to teach me that I can't rely on what you're saying." WOW!

Then, of course, let's say were talking from the employer perspective, you have a job hunter who is suddenly issuing a counter demand and, before you hit the first response, you can always try this one… Ready?

"How am I supposed to do that?" You say it in a kind of flat neutral slow FM radio kind of voice and, lo and behold, it's kind of a shocking moment for them that kind of takes it out of their equilibrium because most of them have summoned up their courage in order to make this demand and what you're trying to do is the equivalent of a pattern interrupt.

The first one I really love – – "Sounds like you trying to teach me that I can't rely on what you're saying." You say in a very neutral way with a flat affect, no pressure, a very simple statement. I think that hit themselves in the head with the impact of that message that you're sending to them.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a coach who worked as a recruiter for what seems like one hundred years. His work involves career coaching, all as well as executive job search coaching and life coaching. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1000 episodes,“ Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us and click the relevant tab on the top of the page.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.