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Working With Recruiters? Stretch Yourself. | JobSearchTV.com


Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter encourages you to stretch yourself when working with recruiters.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200

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episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
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You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

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Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Should I Always Answer When a Recruiter Contacts Me? | JobSearchTV.com


What do you think?

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Should I always reply with a recruiter contacts me? That's today's question. Now, why does your recruiter contact you? They've got a job available. That's reason number one. Reason number two is they're trying to get you to refer someone to them for a job that's available. They think you're hiring someone. They want you to introduce them to someone who's hiring at your firm .Those tend to be the four basic reasons.
Now why should you NOT resond? You have no interest in what they're peddling. Okay, perfectly valid reason. The issue is () () or let me just debate back with you () sometime in the future, you may need them and, yes, you can say, " well they'll work with me anyway, I've got a great background," but why would you turn them off and not try to build a relationship with them?
You can always reply by saying. "Hey! Thanks for reaching out to me about that position. I'm not really interested right now." You can refer someone to them who might be interested or you can simply say, "I don't really know anyone who's looking who might fit that role but I do appreciate your reaching out to me." if you don't want to write that out? Create a signature file in Outlook or created in Word If you're using Gmail or Yahoo mail or one of the web-based services so that you can automatically copy and paste iti in.
If they are looking for a referral, you just respond by saying, "hey, thanks for reaching out. I don't know anyone who fits that profile who? Might consider something right now. No one's voiced it to me and I hope to hear from you in the future if you think there's something that makes sense."
They think you're trying to your hiring someone. You can respond by saying, " I'm not trying to hire right now and I appreciate you reaching out with the offer to help ."
They want an introduction. "I don't want to introduce someone to my boss who I don't really know well, and I'm a little busy right now to get to know you. So, no disrespect intended, you have to go a different way. "
All of these are very quick emails that you can pre write that allow you to communicate, not be rude and just very simply say. "Thanks, but no thanks,"in one way or another. Obviously if you're interested, there's a different response that you have.
But ,you know, I'll simply say it's not a lot of effort to offer quality results. So, don't just blow them off and ignore them if they're reaching out to you through inMail. It's costing them money to do that. LinkedIn will penalize them. If you don't respond. If you do respond, they get credited back the inMail to use towards contacting someone else.
Don't penalize people who are basically trying to help you. Yes, they'll help themselves in the process. But so what ?So what ? They're trying to help you by reaching out to you about an opportunity. You've got a free will and a choice. You can say yes or no. If they have reached you had the right time or what they say piques your interest, terrific!
But my belief is that every time you have an opportunity to build a relationship with someone ,you try to do it, especially if they're in a role where they can help you in the future.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Don’t Lie to Recruiters: Job Search Suicide? | JobSearchTV.com


Not every recruiter is honest or capable but that doesn’t mean you should lie to them. In this video, Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter explains why lying to recruiters can spell job search suicide.

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Don't Lie to Recruiters- Job Search Suicide

Hi, I'm Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter. I'm called the Big Game Hunter because I've hunted down leaders and staff organizations for more than 40 years. Let's talk about the job hunter relationship with recruiters for a minute. Now, I want to preface this all by saying not every recruiter's capable, not every recruiter's experienced. As a matter of fact some of them lie, and they're incompetent.
Be that as it may, let me also talk about Job hunters .In the recruiting business, there are a couple of basic jokes that we tell. The first joke that we tell beginning recruiters is, " how can you tell a job applicant is lying to you?" And the answer is, "their lips are moving."
The next joke is, " How can you tell an Institutional customer's lying to you? The answer is, " their lips are moving."The third one is, " how can you tell a recruiter's lying to you?" The answer is , "their lips are moving. "
it's not that everyone's necessarily lying. Everyone's posturing for advantage, whether it's you, the recruiter, the employer-- so everyone's trying to get the best deal possible.
However, let me talk with you about a stupid thing that job applicant sometimes do and I'll just tell you a story from a recent week of mine. There's a person I've been working with . . . he's a very veteran guy in IT. I met him about six weeks ago. He been out of work for five months. Couldn't understand why until I started working with him.
Now,he says one thing to me. He says something different to a client. Now, you know, I have relationships with the firm's I work with. I've worked with him for years. They trust me. With one of the clients,you know, this is a firm. I've worked with since they were half a billion in size and they're quite a few billion dollars in revenue now, I think it's close to eight billion dollars in revenue.
So, I go back with them a long way and I'vework with this practice for a long time. So, I ask him a question. Would you accept less than what you're making now? He says, "yeah," I guess so. How much less? He tells me. You know, I talk with my client. They were unwilling to pay what he was previously earning. They just didn't see the value in it. The number he now quoted to me was now within something they found acceptable.
So, I schedule an interview for him. He talks with my client. They ask him, " how much are you willing to accept?" he starts with the original salary range. You don't do that. The impact of that was they come to me,they ask me about it, I tell them what my conversation was. They, in turn, respond by saying, "you know, we wanted to verify that so we called him a second time and asked them the question, again.
He stated the same high number and we're not interested. That's the impact of of deception. You say one thing to a recruiter and you say something different to the client ,the firm that's interviewing you and you think you can negotiate. At the end, you can't. You have to at least make them fall in love first because as I say to people all the time, no love, no money, no, honey.
You can you can say things like, I was making such and such. I'm flexible. I prefer not to be flexible,but if iwhat's necessary to get a job with an organization I respect and admire, doing work that I'd love, I'll take a few dollars less," but when you say one thing to a recruiter and something different to a client, understand, the company and the recruiter have a lengthy relationship with one another. They know you're lying. They know you're blowing smoke at them and they won't tolerate it because they start asking themselves pretty quickly. What "else is he going to lie about? Where else is there? Are they going to give me a headache that I don't really need to have, Wedon't really care because we're looking for someone who's honest and forthright, not someone who's going to, shall we say, "finesse us all the time."
So that's my reminder for today. Be honest about things. If you say something Q a recruiter, stick with it. I'
I'm Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter. If you like today's video, come over to my website, www.TheBigGameHunter.us. I have more there oryou can watch them On YouTube.. If you're watching this on YouTube and you liked it, click the like button. It lets other people know that the videos are good. While You're at my website,
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again, the leads are good worldwide. You can also find that information about my books and guides to job hunting as well as other people's books. This is Jeff Altman,The Big Game Hunter.
Hope you found today's video helpful. Hope you have a great day. Take care.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

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Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Don’t Steal FromJeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter explains why you should not steal from recruiters.Recruiters| JobSearchTV.com

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter explains why you should not steal from recruiters.

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You probably don't think of it this way but let me clear it up. When you see an ad from a recruiter and refers to a job online and you say to yourself, "hey I know that firm is! I think I'll contact them directly," you are stealing. You're taking information that you learned about and using it for your own purposes.

I also want you to understand it's not the smartest move in the world. Why? The recruiter has a relationship with this firm. They know more than you about the organization. They can handle your schedule. They can help you tailor your resume based upon the job involved and the relationship with the firm and what they may know about the job apart from what has been advertised.

Why would you go around them? To save the firm money?

It costs you so much more because 95 times out of 100 people to get the job that they apply to directly without the coaching of a recruiter.

Foolishly, you think you're doing the company a favor. In fact, you're hurting yourself and you are stealing. You are stealing that information to use it for your own purposes without any consideration for the impact on the other person.

Be considerate.

Be kind.

I talked to a friend of mine who is a recruiter with another firm who told me about two instances where people saw one of her postings and went directly to a client and the client dismissed these people and told her the story about them because it was real clear that these people had come to them based upon seeing the advertisement.

Let me summarize by saying, "don't do it." What do you get out of it? Do you feel good about it? Do you feel good that you were tricky and are better than the recruiter?

Or you're going to get back a recruiter that you don't even know for all the things that happened to you at the hands of recruiters?

Stop it. Seriously, be considerate to everyone that you meet professionally because you don't know when it will come back and either help you or hurt you.

Help you because you are considered to the other person or hurt you because you acted obnoxiously.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

 

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Managing Third Party Recruiters | No BS Hiring Advice


In this video, Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter offers a number of ideas for managing third party recruiters more effectively. You should never hire and how to find out if the candidate you are interviewing is one of them.

 

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for what more than 40 years. He is the host of

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

“No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1200 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

 

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Don’t Abuse Your Applicant Tracking System | No BS Hiring Advice


It doesn’t do most of you any good to claim your applicant tracking system “knows” a particular candidate if you don’t have the time to contact them. In this video, Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter discusses a common form of abusing a firm’s applicant tracking system and how it does you no good. NOTE: This was recorded when I did recruiting. I no longer work as a recruiter. I now work as a career and leadership coach.

 

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for what more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1100 episodes, “Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

How Do You Treat a Bad Recruiter? | JobSearchTV.com


It is absolutely bizarre to me that someone would ask this question. Yet there I was, and I need to answer it.

Summary

I received this question from someone and I just shake my head when I read it. The question is, “How do you treat bad recruiter?”

I don't know what this person means by, “bad recruiter.” I normally associate people's thinking of a bad recruiter as someone who doesn't get them an interview, who doesn't get them a job or doesn't return phone calls, etc. etc.

I know there are people who thought of me is a bad recruiter and I thought of them as bad candidates, but I digress for a second. I will simply say I don't know what a bad recruiter it is. If it's one of the above categories, maybe you play a part in this. Maybe you submitted a resume that doesn't fit a job. Maybe they wouldn't submit you to a job that you really wanted to be submitted to because you weren’t qualified but you think of them as “bad” because they didn't listen to you. .

You see, you don't pay most recruiters anything. Unless you're in a a lower echelon position, fees are being paid by employers. Recruiters work for the employer; they don’t work for you.

If they were rude to you, if they were abrupt with you, I always ask, “Wasn't there something that you did to invoke that.” Maybe they had a bad day. Whatever It is, the question is, “how do you treat a bad recruiter?”

Get your parents teach anything about manners? They may be obnoxious, but that doesn't mean that you have to go there. And I'll simply say that, for most individuals, It's far better to think long term. And I will just remind you that, for someone like me who worked in search for more than 40 years, I had a long memory. I remembered a lot of things that people said and did that have become the basis for some other videos and podcasts I've done. And there were people, I would not submit, for jobs because, they were just obnoxious I couldn't tell how they would act with the client of mine. .

So, you're always far better to simply, say, “Hey look, I am not interested in making a job change right, but stay in touch from time to time, if you hear about something because, after all, (I am going to detour here for a second) the person who gets ahead isn't always the smartest or work, although those are great qualities to have. The person who gets ahead is the one that remains alert to opportunities. Sometimes, those opportunities are internal to the organization. More often than not, they are external to it.

So, you never want to be offensive to a recruiter because you never know when they learn about a position and want to consider you for search. Why would you turn them off?

Again, I don't believe you need to go job hunting with recruiters, but if someone approaches you about a role, why would you ever be offensive to them? Why would you ever consider that you should treat them in any other way than with the same respect that you want to be treated?
It's bizarre to me that people actually think that this is a question that requires any sort of you. You treat everyone in your life with respect. You demonstrate excellence in your behavior and, lo and behold, great stuff comes back to you.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for what more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1100 episodes,“ Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us and click the relevant tab on the top of the page.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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How Do You Spot a Bad Recruiter? | JobSearchTV.com


An easy question with a complicated answer.

Summary

The question for today is, "How do you spot a bad recruiter?" I think it's a wonderful question, but, I'm not going to give you the answer that you expect.

Here's what my thinking is. Most of you think that a bad recruiter is someone who doesn't get a job for you. You think a bad recruiter is someone who doesn't find you work. As a matter of fact, they may never arrange for an interview for you.

The problem with that is you are confused about what a recruiter is supposed to do. You make the mistake of thinking that recruiters work for you when, in fact, recruiters are paid by employers, not paid to find positions for someone.

I read an answer on Quora. I want to acknowledge it and poke holes in it. It starts off, "From the beginning when you get a first email message from a recruiter, skim to the bottom. Was it written to you. If you could change the name of the top and so the 200s of people… That's the sign of a bad recruiter!"

No. That's an indication that they are casting a wide net. They don't know if you're going to be interested. As a matter of fact, most people will never respond. It's not that they send out bulk email (because in some way, shape or form, you pay contact with them in the past). They have a database that lets them know that one time, when you are in touch with them in the past, you did similar work to what was being sought by the client.

They are presenting an opportunity. You have to accept that opportunity. That's fine.

"They use buzzwords and pick up lines. Bad recruiters have conversations where they use buzzwords and weak pickup lines."

I have no idea what this person means by, "weak pickup lines." They are obviously being sarcastic. However, buzzwords may reflect technology and functionality within a particular profession that a client may require. You have to find out whether the person has those skills pretty quickly in order to see if you are wasting your time and theirs.

"They don't understand its structure of an interview. They ask questions out of left field that seem like they are out of order."

No. Something may have popped into their mind that they forgot to cover. I'm a human being. I do make mistakes. I do forget they ask certain things. If you think, bad recruiter, having filled more than 1200 positions plus consulting assignments, having gone 1500+ YouTube videos on job search, having done three podcasts and a whole host of things because I have something that didn't seem like was in the right sequence for you, how do you feel if someone criticize you for that in your work?

I'm imperfect being. So are you. Give me a break. Don't expect perfection.

"Hard sell." That might be the side of a bad recruiter. I'm going to conceive that point. Some people sell hard. If the reason that they are selling hard is because you changed your story will beg, well, excuse me!

There is an inconsistency that you have not communicated, you've changed your mind, we've gone to bat (as you must realize, contingency recruiters are only paid it if you are hired and remain in the employ of the client for certain period of time).

As a result, your change, on communicated, is a surprise. When we are surprised, often, we are looking at a substantial portion of our income going away. I know that doesn't mean anything to you, but you have to expect that there will be a human reaction to that.

"The questions that they ask are dumb." An employer often requires us to ask and take questions to ensure that a person is qualified.

"We don't follow up do they do all the talking? Are they listening to what you are saying? Do they do the things they say they will when they well?" Do you?

I will simply say, recruiters are imperfect beings. We are sometimes held up by our clients who change their mind and have their circumstances change.

At the end of the day, we don't work for you. We work for an employer who is paying us just like you work for an employer who is paying you. When push has to come to shove, you can do whatever you wish, however, what you interpret as being a bad recruiter often isn't.

I will give you one thing. One of the best indicators of a good recruiter is longevity. They have had success in their field. Worked for their organization (organizations in general) for lengthy periods of time.

I'm not saying this to blow my own horn, but I have survived many recessions and thrived for more than 40 years. That should send a message to you. Will it be perfect for everyone? Absolutely not. A lot of people will judge me as a bad recruiter because I haven't help them.

Okay. Your background doesn't fit what my clients want to hire. Do you think I'm going to get on the phone and call thousand companies for FREE (because you're not paying me anything) to find a job for you? NO!!! I paid by organizations to find talent for them, not to find you a job.

So, remember, who does a recruiter work for? That's the basis of the question. The answer is an employer. They make the judgment by hiring the firm the recruiter works for, doing it time and again, hiring that individual recruiter time and again to fill positions

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for what more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1100 episodes,“ Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us and click the relevant tab on the top of the page.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

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Recruiters Contacted Me About the Same Job! | No BS Job Search Advice Radio

EP 1019 Who should I call? The first?

Summary

"What you do. If multiple recruiters contact you about the same job? Do you go to 1st 1? Go with the one that you feel is the best one?" He says it happens to them a lot. There are a few subtleties in the dynamic that I have to address.

Sometimes, you get 4 calls in one day about the same job. You don't know you're going to get the 4th. You just take the 1st: someone is qualifying you.. The 2nd through 4th are out of luck because the probability is you gave the okay to the 1st 1, not because that they're the best because you didn't know there going to be other choices.

If you have voicemail messages waiting for you, that is a different scenario. That's true particularly for veteran individuals, for executives, senior managers, directors, and above. You go with the one that you have a relationship with who "gets you." You go with the one who, in the course of the conversation with them, gives you the idea that they have a great relationship with the client.

To some degree, this involves what I referred to as the (I make multiple sniffing noises) ability to smell BS. If you are hearing BS from someone, in the conversation. Be very polite about it, but don't go any further. If it some of that you have a relationship with, perhaps someone that you work with for several years, perhaps is the hiring manager and you work with them before, you know whether to trust them or not. Follow your gut here.

It all starts off with what is the relationship with the client? If they say, "It is a new client," they may not be able to finesse you in. If it is a long-standing one, that is not a guarantee , either. It really comes down to what your relationship is with this firm, happy benefit by your relationship with the recruiter, do you trust this person or not (obviously, don't be submitted by someone who you can't trust because whether it is an executive search or contingency service,, the folks who are not trustworthy are going to be difficult to believe for you. Once it comes time for you to decide on a job offer.

Let's be practical. You don't trust them. They are telling you all sorts of things about the firm. It is easy to get caught up in their "stuff." You don't know what to listen to or NOT listen to. They don't become an asset for you. Other than that they give you an introduction. Who can be that asset for you?

I will just tell you that JobSearchCoachingHQ.com it's a place where I am the ally of the job hunter. I am not there to collect a payday on a placement fee. I am there to give great advice. PERIOD. I don't want to represent the members there as a recruiter. I just want to help them get great jobs.

If you join the site, I'm going to give you impartial opinions based upon what you tell me and what they may coincidently know about the client. If the role, I only worked in recruiting for 44 years. I only felt about 1200 positions full time plus consulting assignments. I've written 9 books. I've create over 3000 YouTube videos. Hosted a few podcasts I don't know anything about finding a job! LOL. I want to help you.

I'll just simply say that, as in this case, there are always lots of variables. I'm pretty good at dissecting them. Maybe there was a variable that I did not consider-- leave a message for me. Let me know what you think would be more helpful and I will try to cover it another time.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a coach who worked as a recruiter for what seems like one hundred years. His work involves career coaching, all as well as executive job search coaching and life coaching. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1000 episodes,“ Job Search Radio,” “and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us and click the relevant tab on the top of the page.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

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Recruiters Are Not Your Friends | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


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EP 996 Originally recorded on Periscope,  I offer a reminder about working with recruiters.

Summary

This is a so that is not going to make me popular with my counterparts with of the search firms , but I coach people play big so I might as well tell you the truth. The headline for this episode is, "Recruiters Are Not Your Friend."

DUH!

But, a lot of people get seduced by recruiters. That's both clients and job hunters. However, I would like to remind you of something that really comes from the real estate. In the real estate world, is really very clear that there are buyer's agents and seller's agents. The the make you sign a form that make sure that you understand that this person might be functioning as a buyer's agent And a seller's agent.

In job search, there is no form like that; there is no legal requirement to identify. Recruiters are often function in both roles-- buyer's and seller's agents. Let me put it to you bluntly. Are you paying them anything? Of course, not. Thus, what they really are are the buyer's agents. They are representing a corporation with a particular need. To get you to do with they want you to do which is to take a job with your client, they are going to "finesse you," seduce you, say a whole bunch of stuff in order to encourage you to pay attention to them. They out there trying to build a relationship of trust with you. They're going to try and be your friend. They are going to say all sorts of stuff that is designed to influence you because, at the end of the day, if you join the client, they are going to earn a commission. I know you know this!, but on the other hand, you act like you don't know this because so many people are seduced by this behavior that they tend to keep an object of mine to what is actually going on.

See, recruiters serve a great purpose. They do have relationships of companies that can get you interviews. They can handle all the scheduling BUT you have to keep a detached frame of reference with them because so many of them are going to lie and deceive you in order to get you to do what they want you to do which is take the job.

So, don't be fooled.Always maintain a degree of detachment. Hear what they have to say., Check it out with others That's always a key element---Check it out with others. So few people really do that.

For example, you are interviewing with a major corporation, and are all sorts of great stuff, "They are a fabulous organization! What do you have to lose!" And all this happy sort of happy manure. At the end of the day, if you check out this firm, and you check out this grouping you discover that the firm is having financial problems in the manager. This group is an idiot in the last 5 people have left in 3 months... You have to do a little bit of homework and not just operate on face value whenever recruiters are concerned.

You know, at the end of the day, if you join, they will collect the fee if you stay there for 3 months (it's 90 days by the way, which can be less than 3 months. You get the idea).

So, again, maintain a certain vantage point with the search firms. Don't fall prey to the seduction that they engage in in order to get you to sign with the client. If you do that, you will be a lot happier at the end of the day.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a coach who worked as a recruiter for what seems like one hundred years. His work involves career coaching, all as well as executive job search coaching and life coaching. He is the host of “Job Search Radio,” “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice” and a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Visit www.TheBigGameHunter.us and click the relevant tab on the top of the page.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedIn. Like me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

For more about LinkedIn, order “Stacked: Double Your Job Interviews, Leverage Recruiters and Unlock LinkedIn.”

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.