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Two of My People Leave at 6PM Every Day & I Don’t Like It! | No BS Management Advice

“I have two employees that usually leave work at 6 pm. They are good, but I don’t like that their commitment lasts for work hours only. What should I do as a CEO?”


I run into situations sometimes when I coach . . . They're absolutely hysterical. Let me just give you an example of one of from someone. I do this with their permission.
"I have two employees that usually leave work at 6 p.m. They are good, but I don't like that their commitment lasts for work hours only. What should I do as CEO?"
Now, I work with the assumption that this is a start-up organization, a smaller firm because at a large firm they'd never noticed this happening. So, let's work with the assumption it's a small firm and this person's throwing around their CEO title.
Now I have to ask a follow-up question because I give no BS advice, right? So, the follow-up question is how do you know they're only working during office hours? Seriously, how do you know that, with every sort of mobile device known to humanity, with every laptop that's out in the world today, how do you know?
I know, you know, their body isn't at work, but how do you know that they're not working? What do you think the wife, husband or partner thinks? I know you don't give a shit, even though you probably care about your wife or husband or partner.
But you know, they are entitled to that relationship, right? You didn't buy that. And then the last thing is only during work hours. Like that assumes that you understand that there's a non-work hours time available. And when is that supposed to exist?
You hire them for a job. You didn't hire them for slavery and that someone actually has this attitude at this day and age is insane to me. I've worked as a recruiter for startups; I've worked for smaller organizations. I understand that owners want to control their people. It's just the nature of things particularly in smaller firms.
But the reality is you don't own them. They're entitled to a life and you probably didn't explain your expectations to them when you hired them, did you.
So, I'll simply say that you may not like it. Tough shit! Seriously. Tough shit. You don't like it. You didn't tell them what you expected of them. They're leaving at six. What time are they getting in eight? Help me understand this because it is already a 10-hour day and that's not enough for you?
What statistics have shown time and again is more hours doesn't yield more productivity. If anything, there is a diminishing return on the productivity with time. People make more mistakes. We don't know the nature of the work these folks are doing. We just do know that they're leaving at 6:00 p.m. and you don't like it.
Well, if you want them to work more hours, pay them more. Seriously. Pay them more. See if they're willing to do it for more money because, again, I don't believe you ever told them what your expectations are and you're just sitting there clock-watching, not looking at what's reasonable.
Again, just to repeat, their bodies are leaving at 6:00 p.m. You don't know if they're working after hours from their home, but they're just there. They're just leaving the office and going home to work, spending a little time with their family or kids, putting them to sleep and then getting right back to work


Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1300 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

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Beware of “The Nodders” | No BS Management Advice

An interview I listened to with Simon Cowell is the trigger for this video.


I'm Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter. I'm the head coach for and And I want to talk with you about a piece of management advice that too few people really take it. I'll use an illustration.
I remember when I was growing up, there was an American President ,Lyndon Johnson ,who surrounded himself with what we referred to as "Yes Men– –" people who agreed with him about everything he thought or said. That lack of diverse opinions, differing opinion proved costly to him as he became more in immersed in the Vietnam War.
I was listening to a podcast recently were Simon Cowell was being interviewed. (And if you haven't subscribed to Oprah Winfrey's podcast series, it's really very good as she basically turns over a platform to people who are successful to talk about their challenges on the way to success) and Cowell spoke about "the nodders," which is what I'm referring to on this particular video. You know the people who sit there, nodding in agreement, never really offering anything contradictory or specific but they are they're providing a form of flattery. This flattery can be dangerous for a manager, a c-suite professional, a CEO because once people believe that they can flatter you into, shall we say, agreement, flattered you into advancement, ultimately, what winds up happening is you're losing. You're losing difference of opinion that you really need because as a business leader or just as a manager on up and into the presidency of an organization, you will lose something that's critical.
If you notice that you're sitting in a meeting and you're offering an opinion and you are seeing the heads of agreement, call a time out and say, "I don't need agreement for me. What I need is what are my blind spots here? What am I not seeing?" And In doing that, you may ultimately come to the same decision, but,what you're really going to get Is a leadership team, a staff of individuals who are invested in the success of the organization, not how far up your butt they're sticking their nose.
So, I hope you found this helpful, if you did in and you are interested in my coaching you, connect with me on LinkedIn at /in/TheBigGameHunter. Mention that you saw this video because I like knowing that I'm helping folks. Once we're connected, message me that you are interested in coaching. We'll set up a time for a free discovery call.
Hope you have a great day. Take care.


Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a coach who worked in recruiting for what seems like one hundred years. He is the

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

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