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Why Do Employers Avoid Hiring Job Seekers Who Have Been Out of Work For a While?


Listen to the full episode here:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thebiggamehunter/2018/04/08/why-do-employers-avoid-hiring-job-seekers-who-have-been-out-of-work-for-a-while

EP 1068 When people are out of work for a while.  It sends a message that’s hard not to listen to.

Summary

Why do employers avoid hiring job-seekers who have been out of work for a while? There is a logic to it that you as a job seeker may not like but, it is there logic.

The assumption is that a lot of firms have already interviewed you and a lot of firms have rejected you. What is wrong with them? Why is it that this person cannot get a job if they have spoken to so many companies, so many firms for comparable opportunities… What is wrong with them? That, "What's wrong with them," is a big part of it.

I remember when I was a rookie recruiter back in The Stone Ages (no computers, we would mail resumes or have a messenger on staff to deliver them to clients, no fax machines--. You worked with index cards. That's how long ago this was), I remember talking to the 1st or 2nd person I personally interviewed and I have been trained to ask, "so where have you been on interview so far?" He listed 19 places to me.

I waited to talk to the more senior recruiter with all my notes because I had had a stack of questions to ask and I was sweating bullets because this is a beginning interview for me. He looked at this list of firms that this person had interviewed with and been turned down at and their reaction was, "He's a bum. He's no good." Following up on the guy, he did find a job for year after I met him and he was out of work for close to 2 years before finding a job. The job he found was with a company that wasn't perceived in the market as being particularly good, that was not on our radar and that we had chosen not to work with. Thus, I was taught the lesson of how employers look at them.

You may say that this is a recruiter saying that he's no good. However, it was the behavior of the employers that told us that they didn't value what he had to offer. As a result, we learned from them how they evaluated and assessed him. After all, 19 INTERVIEWS! He was interviewed 19 times and was turned down at the point that I met him. Thus, employers avoid interviewing people who have been out of work for a long time for fear that they are bringing on someone who has something wrong with them professionally.

We aren't talking about references. We are just talking about not being competent in what they claim to have proficiency in.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1500 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was recently named a Top 10 podcast for job search. JobSearchTV.com was also recently named a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Schedule a free Discovery call.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com
NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Watch my videos on YouTube at JobSearchTV.com or BingeNetworks.tv for FireTV, AppleTV, Roku and 90 other devices

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

What Do You Do If You’ve Been Out of Work So Long Employers Won’t Hire You? | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


Listen to the full episode here:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thebiggamehunter/2018/04/09/what-do-you-do-if-youve-been-out-of-work-so-long-employers-wont-hire-you

EP 1069 This is a followup to the show I did yesterday that asked why employers don’t hire people who have been out of work for a while.

Summary

Yesterday, I did a video that asked a question, "Why do employers not hire people who have been out of work for a while?" My answer said some difficult things that I thought were worthwhile to hear. Someone responded with a great question. "Okay. Fine. What do I do?" It was a great question to ask and I thought I would address it in this video.

The answer is going to be a little bit different based upon whether you are inexperienced or relatively junior in your professional circles or more experienced. Whether you are white collar or no collar or blue-collar.

If you are relatively inexperienced, you basically have to go out there and talk to people in different sectors; you have to start talking to temp agencies about the skills that are being sought and, if necessary, go back to school in order to learn those skills.

If you are more experienced, if you are white collar, you may have to get on a plane and go somewhere in order to do the work that you do. I know that is not ideal. But, if necessary, do it. Temp agencies/consulting firms are an option for you if your skills are marketable in other parts of the country. Even if you been out of work for a while, there is a way that your resume can address why you have a gap and you can, if you have done this legitimately, put the word, "Consultant," in there. Even though it is not a full-time job, you can indicate that you have done consulting and talk about the kind of work that you have done as a consultant.

In terms of marketing yourself for the next position, the basic call to action is temp firms, getting on a plane, starting your own business (which I think is probably the least likely option because frankly, if you had the capital to start your own business, you would've done it already. You may not think that way but now that you've been out of work for a while, you've run through savings pretty quickly).

I would say get to a temp agency in your area of the country that places people in jobs that you do. But don't just simply talk with them about what jobs they have opened now. Talk with them about what they look for in a background for their clients. Get a human being to talk with who can adopt you and be flexible to what they want you to do.

Don't just simply say (I'm going to use a New York example), "I will only work in midtown Manhattan." Don't say, "I will only drive 15 minutes from my home."

You're not going to find work. If you do that because you are setting down barriers that will make it much more difficult for you. You need to start developing flexibility.

Here's the other part. This is the part job hunters don't want to hear but is necessary to say. The probability is in your previous work, you are not as good as you thought you were. You need to get better at that which may require that you start taking classes or practice by volunteering at an organization to re-energize your skills and get better at them.

Another thing that you don't want to hear is that you probably don't interview particularly well. You need to get better at that part. I will quickly say that JobSearchCoachingHQ.com has great content that will help you with interviewing and, if you have questions, you can ask me your questions.

Fundamentally, you need to get better at your skills and you need to get better at interviewing because those are completely different skill sets. After all, the skills needed to find the job are different than the skills needed to do a job. You need to get stronger at those and that requires practice and effort and not just simply watching Netflix will being on the phone all day.

You need to treat looking for a job like a sports team does preparing to play on Sunday or preparing for a tennis match. Teams and athletes don't just simply run around and do stuff. They practice plays or how to respond to situations. You need to practice the plays of interviewing. You need to practice job hunting in order to get results.

Athletes make millions of dollars doing this and you expect to get the same results while putting in no effort. Your effort needs to get higher and everything that you are doing, both in terms of your craft/your work whether you are white collar, blue collar or no collar… You're going to have to get stronger. If that means giving away your talent for a while. By volunteering or interning, you do that.

You practice interviewing so that you get better at that. You get feedback from people about how you sound and how well you answer questions. My dilemma about this is that most of the people that you might ask for advice about that may not be the best they giving you advice about that.

If you can't afford a coach, you work with what you've got. Maybe your local unemployment office will have someone there who will take mercy upon you and give you that kind of support.

No matter what, you need to practice interviewing, you need to practice your craft, you need to figure out how what you do fits into your geographic market area AND you need to become more flexible. This is effort. I know in our modern times, people don't want to expand efforts.

You've been sitting home for a while and you have been unsuccessful doing what you are doing. You have to learn to do it differently and get feedback on how you are performing in order to be more effective.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1500 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was recently named a Top 10 podcast for job search. JobSearchTV.com was also recently named a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Schedule a free Discovery call.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com
NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Watch my videos on YouTube at JobSearchTV.com or BingeNetworks.tv for FireTV, AppleTV, Roku and 90 other devices

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.”

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

Are You an Out of Work Executive or C Level Professional? | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


Listen to the full episode here
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thebiggamehunter/2019/02/16/are-you-an-out-of-work-executive-or-c-level-professional

EP 1377 A simple piece of advice for the unemployed executive or C level professional.

Summary

I wanted to address what to do if you're out of work executive or C level professional to guide you in a way that makes sense in your career.

For a lot of you, you have had success show up for you very easily. I don't want to seem dismissive in any way, shape or form. You've had success and now you are out of work. You have an idea of what to do, but you are better off getting some advice or start working with someone who can work with you to help you accomplish your goals and help you get back to work more quickly.

I'm here to recommend job search coaching; I happen to do that but I'm not going to do a big commercial about myself here.

For you as an executive or C level professional, you need someone to talk with. I represent this in a facetious way. In the mob (you've watched "The Godfather" movies, right), there was always a consigliere. The Boss of Bosses, the Don always made the decisions but he had someone he trusted to bounce ideas off of. That's what you need to do.

Even though you may have higher thousands of people before, even though you may have run organizations, you are now on the other side. You may think you know the process and, even if you do, there is an emotional part of the process that you not well-equipped for.

I'm telling you, get some coaching. Get some support. Hire someone as an ally for you in your search.

I want to be clear that if you think I'm recommending that you contact executive search firms, I assume you have already done that. You know the ones in your field and have developed relationships over the course of time with a number of them. They probably already told you that workout you this last job isn't going to get you your next one.

Coaching is different. A coach is going to help guide you through your search, someone you can speak with other than your wife, husband, partner or dog… You need to talk to someone to sort this out because the emotional part of job search is going to be the hardest for you. You may try to bury its

You may try to bury it. You may try to push it down. It's going to leak out in a number of different ways unless you hire someone to work with you.

If you're interested, contact me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

I just want to tell you get some help so that you're not trying to figure this out by yourself.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1300 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was recently named a Top 10 podcast for job search. JobSearchTV.com was also recently named a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

 

NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com
NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

Are You an Out of Work Executive or C Level Professional? | NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com


Listen to the full episode here
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thebiggamehunter/2019/02/16/are-you-an-out-of-work-executive-or-c-level-professional

EP 1377 A simple piece of advice for the unemployed executive or C level professional.

Summary

I wanted to address what to do if you're out of work executive or C level professional to guide you in a way that makes sense in your career.

For a lot of you, you have had success show up for you very easily. I don't want to seem dismissive in any way, shape or form. You've had success and now you are out of work. You have an idea of what to do, but you are better off getting some advice or start working with someone who can work with you to help you accomplish your goals and help you get back to work more quickly.

I'm here to recommend job search coaching; I happen to do that but I'm not going to do a big commercial about myself here.

For you as an executive or C level professional, you need someone to talk with. I represent this in a facetious way. In the mob (you've watched "The Godfather" movies, right), there was always a consigliere. The Boss of Bosses, the Don always made the decisions but he had someone he trusted to bounce ideas off of. That's what you need to do.

Even though you may have higher thousands of people before, even though you may have run organizations, you are now on the other side. You may think you know the process and, even if you do, there is an emotional part of the process that you not well-equipped for.

I'm telling you, get some coaching. Get some support. Hire someone as an ally for you in your search.

I want to be clear that if you think I'm recommending that you contact executive search firms, I assume you have already done that. You know the ones in your field and have developed relationships over the course of time with a number of them. They probably already told you that workout you this last job isn't going to get you your next one.

Coaching is different. A coach is going to help guide you through your search, someone you can speak with other than your wife, husband, partner or dog… You need to talk to someone to sort this out because the emotional part of job search is going to be the hardest for you. You may try to bury its

You may try to bury it. You may try to push it down. It's going to leak out in a number of different ways unless you hire someone to work with you.

If you're interested, contact me at JeffAltman@TheBigGameHunter.us

I just want to tell you get some help so that you're not trying to figure this out by yourself.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1300 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was recently named a Top 10 podcast for job search. JobSearchTV.com was also recently named a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Connect with me on LinkedIn. Then message me to schedule an initial complimentary session.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

 

NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com
NoBSJobSearchAdvice.com

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

A podcast listener wrote asking the question. I can’t believe I missed this one.

Why Do Employers Avoid Hiring Job Seekers Who Have Been Out of Work For a While? | JobSearchTV.com


You may not like the answer, but it is important that you hear it. When people are out of work for a while. It sends a message that’s hard not to listen to.

Summary

Why do employers avoid hiring job-seekers who have been out of work for a while? There is a logic to it that you as a job seeker may not like but, it is there logic.

The assumption is that a lot of firms have already interviewed you and a lot of firms have rejected you. What is wrong with them? Why is it that this person cannot get a job if they have spoken to so many companies, so many firms for comparable opportunities… What is wrong with them? That, "What's wrong with them," is a big part of it.

I remember when I was a rookie recruiter back in The Stone Ages (no computers, we would mail resumes or have a messenger on staff to deliver them to clients, no fax machines--. You worked with index cards. That's how long ago this was), I remember talking to the 1st or 2nd person I personally interviewed and I have been trained to ask, "so where have you been on interview so far?" He listed 19 places to me.

I waited to talk to the more senior recruiter with all my notes because I had had a stack of questions to ask and I was sweating bullets because this is a beginning interview for me. He looked at this list of firms that this person had interviewed with and been turned down at and their reaction was, "He's a bum. He's no good." Following up on the guy, he did find a job for year after I met him and he was out of work for close to 2 years before finding a job. The job he found was with a company that wasn't perceived in the market as being particularly good, that was not on our radar and that we had chosen not to work with. Thus, I was taught the lesson of how employers look at them.

You may say that this is a recruiter saying that he's no good. However, it was the behavior of the employers that told us that they didn't value what he had to offer. As a result, we learned from them how they evaluated and assessed him. After all, 19 INTERVIEWS! He was interviewed 19 times and was turned down at the point that I met him. Thus, employers avoid interviewing people who have been out of work for a long time for fear that they are bringing on someone who has something wrong with them professionally.

We aren't talking about references. We are just talking about not being competent in what they claim to have proficiency in.

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter
Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1500 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was recently named a Top 10 podcast for job search. JobSearchTV.com was also recently named a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

Are you interested in 1:1 coaching, interview coaching, advice about networking more effectively, how to negotiate your offer or leadership coaching? Schedule a free Discovery call.

If you have questions for me, call me through the Magnifi app for iOS (video) or PrestoExperts.com (phone)

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com offers great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.  

Connect with me on LinkedInLike me on Facebook.

JobSearchTV.com
JobSearchTV.com

Join and attend my classes on Skillshare. Become a premium member and get 2 months free.

Watch my videos on YouTube at JobSearchTV.com or BingeNetworks.tv for FireTV, AppleTV, Roku and 90 other devices

Join Career Angles on Facebook and receive support, ideas and advice in your current career and job.

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle on Amazon and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.” If you are starting your search, order, “Get Ready for the Job Jungle.” 

Don’t forget to give the show 5 stars and a good review in iTunes

If you want to know how to win more interviews, order “Winning Interviews.” You’ll learn how to win phone interviews, in-person interviews, the best question to ask on any interview and more.

Would you like to talk through a salary negotiation or potential negotiation you’re involved with? Order and schedule time with me.

Do you have questions or would like advice about networking or any aspect of your search. Order and schedule time with me.

Would you like me to critique your resume. Order a critique from me

Jeff’s Kindle book, “You Can Fix Stupid: No BS Hiring Advice,” is available on Amazon.

Out of Work Since Last Year? Hustle NOW!

I started in the search business in 1972 and it didn’t take long for me to notice a few simple yet understandable behaviors among employers.

 

They include:

The longer someone is looking for work, the fewer choices they have. Companies start to look at your resume and believe that others have interviewed you and found your skills lacking, so why should they waste their time meeting you?

The longer that someone is out of work the less leverage someone has come salary negotiations. Firms often adopt the attitude of giving you two choices when they make an offer — take it or leave it. They act from the belief that you don’t have many choices (and they are probably right) so they don’t feel a great need to extend themselves.

If you’ve been out of work in your field for a year or longer, it will be hard (or impossible) to re-enter at the same level … if at all!

For those of you whose resumes indicate that you worked for your last employer until almost a year previously, I encourage you to hustle during the next few months to find something – anything — even if it means profound compromise (to you). Once you have been out of work for a year, your choices will become microscopic and the likelihood of your returning to your career as you’ve known it, unlikely.(Think of what offer you would take if you were still unemployed a six months from now. Take that offer today.)

 

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