Cal Fussman is an American journalist and writer for Esquire’s, “What I’ve Learned” column. He shares a great insight from a remarkable and surprising source.

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Hi, I'm Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter. I'm called "The Big Game Hunter" because I coach people. I want to coach people to play their professional and personal games big.

Now, I was listening to a podcast this morning. Tim Ferriss from the four hour workweek was interviewing Cal Fussman, who's an American journalist, and a writer for Esquire, and the column that he writes is "What I've Learned." And there was a great lesson that Cal shared from an interview he did with Dr. Dre. I know you're gonna be surprised that I'm using Dr. Dre as a reference and, if you are, too bad. So great lesson that he got.

Fussman asked him, "So when you're working on a project, and you're really into it, how long is it before you get some sleep?" And Dr. Dre tells him "Oh, man, when I'm into something, 72 hours I can go without sleep."

Now, If you're a startup and you want to hire someone with a lot of juice, 72 hours, that's a great answer. And if you interviewing someone and you ask that question and reference Dr. Dre and they gave you, "Oh, I need my eight hours," they may be a good hire, but not for a project that really takes a lot of passion and drive and energy. They may be a good operational person, but not the one that's going to be in the trenches, you know, driving things. Is he going to be pushing to excel, who's going to be doing whatever it takes to deliver something on time within budget that is extraordinary.

If that's what you're looking for, if you're a start up, man, that's your question to ask. If you're working for a large firm, you may not want to hear 72 hours as the answer. You may want to hear something in the 20s and 30s, whatever the number is, but reference Dr. Dre.

Cal Fussman who's interviewed people like Mikhail Gorbachev, and many other successful individuals swears by this question. If you look him up, visit Wikipedia, look up where you're like, As matter of fact, go to Tim Ferriss' podcast, and listen to it. Again, Cal Fussman is his name. It is a great interview.

I'm Jeff Altman. I hope you find this helpful. My website is There's a lot there that's going to help with staffing, help you with recruiting, help you be more effective with your staffing process.


No BS Hiring AdviceJeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a coach who worked as a recruiter for what seems like one hundred years. His work involves career coaching, all as well as executive job search coaching, job coaching and interview coaching. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1600 episodes and “The No BS Coaching Advice Podcast” and is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council. “No BS JobSearch Advice Radio” was named a Top 10 podcast for job search. is also a Top 10 YouTube channel for job search.

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