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[02:39] After three interviews–the fourth would be the last one– they emailed that they are still in the process of interviewing, and they have my resume on the desk and will reach out to me when they have the perfect position. What does it mean?
[02:39] Do recruiters have a say in hiring?
[03:34] How do you know if a candidate’s references are lying to you?
[07:47] What are common mistakes that new or inexperienced managers make? What could be done differently?
[10:00] I interviewed with a company that says they will check references but they never have. What do you do?
[11:26] Should employers require experience for entry-level positions?
[13:49] I have an interview scheduled by the company recruiter. Is it okay to tell them that I need to postpone the interview a few days?
[15:19] What does “Promoted” next to job postings on LinkedIn mean? Does it mean that it is a free ad like any other posting?
[16:03] Is LinkedIn even important for the application and hiring process?
[18:12] What makes a good leader?
[19:48] Is it legal for a potential employer to ask for a paystub angle hundreds?
[20:54] I took early retirement a while ago and need to return to the workforce, but while I’ve emailed thousands of resumes, I haven’t gotten a single interview. Are there any suggestions?
[22:20] How can I motivate myself to work hard?
[24:51] How do you answer ‘do you always follow the rules’ interview?
[26:51] Why are so many people content with just earning a salary and working 9-6 their entire adult life?
[29:10] Outro and how to reach me.
And let me just start off with my first question. After three interviews, the fourth will be the last one. The email says that they are still in the process of interviewing, and they have my resume, on deck or on their desk, it says on desk and will reach out to me when they have the perfect position. What does it mean? The answer is you’re rejected for that job. And they’re interviewing other people, they don’t think you’re good enough. And they are moving on from you. But they give you a nice placebo that basically says, Don’t call us. We’ll call you if we have something for you. They’re trying to be nice and let you down slowly. But they’ve let you down. They’re telling you that you’re not. Now they’ll be in touch with you when they have something for you. It’s really that simple.
Do recruiters have a say in hiring? Now, for those of you who are recruiters I know you know, the answer is yes. But not everyone does. And the keywords are there’s a say you have a say in hiring. You don’t make the ultimate decision in most organizations, right? The hiring manager does and, understandably, this person works for them. And like a parent, it reflects upon them. Once this person’s on board and you’ve onboarded them, you’re done with them. Right? But the hiring manager has to live with you with them. So, yes, they have a say and they certainly have a lot of influence on the hiring. After all, if you’ve discerned something about this person that makes them questionable, you’re telling the hiring manager, of course, right? So yes, they have a say but they’re not making the ultimate decision. They have a say in this process. They don’t decide per se in most cases in almost all cases.
Okay. How do you know if a candidate’s references are lying to you? Oh, my goodness. This is now the fourth question is series that I did. I’m saying this as a joke. Their lips are moving I say that as a joke for the simple reason that there’s an old joke in the recruiting profession. How can you tell an applicant is lying to you? Their lips are moving, acting, and tell one of your institutional customers is lying to you. Their legs are moving. And of course, how can you tell a third-party recruiter is lying to you? Their lips are moving. And ultimately, these are the choices. When you are talking to a reference, it is rare that they’re giving you full textual information. The candidate has provided them. And of course, they’re gonna say wonderful things about them. Right? How many candidates? How many references have you ever heard say, Oh, this person’s awful? I hate them. terrible person. No, just doesn’t happen. Again. It’s provided by the job Hunter. So should it prove surprise you that the reference is going to be a good reference? Of course not. I didn’t know that. But the question is, how can you tell? Now, the way to tell is by digging in deeper, talking with him in more detail about the work this person’s been doing? And how they went about doing it, what their successes were, what the problems were with them, failures that they had. Dig deeper, not just one question, go two levels down. Listen for hemming and hawing and procrastination. That’s going to tell you something about whether or not this is a real reference. Who really knows the person or not? So are there specific questions I would ask no, because they’re really tailored to the specific job Hunter? But the specific type of work the job Hunter does dig deeper, find out about their role, responsibilities, accomplishments, their failures, what problems existed, you know what they did when they struggled, go off script, make the person go off script, that’s going to tell you a lot about what this person really did, how they went about doing it, etc, etc. So, go deeper, that’s really your way you stay on the surface, they have a scripted answer, you can have their son or daughter giving you a reference for all you know, but once you dig in deeper, you’ll know throw mine.
What are common mistakes that new or experienced managers make that could be done differently? I’m going to deal with one type of manager here. And that’s the manager has been promoted into the role within a firm. And they’re taking over a group that they work side by side with the people in this group. And thus, the mistake is not clearing the air with the team about what the differences are that they can expect with you. And by that I’m referring to, hey, look, I know we work together for a long time. But I’ve got a different role. And I want you to support. I know you’re not going to agree with everything I do and say you didn’t do what I was working side by side with you. Now I’m a manager. I know you’re not going to do that. I make a joke. But what I appreciated is your support. And if you disagree, come to me. Come to me, let’s talk about it. So that this way, you’re enrolling them in your management, you’re enrolling them in your leadership so that this way they feel a part of it. Don’t immediately do things differently about getting together from lunch or coffee or what have you. Unless there’s a conflict in your calendar, try and maintain a couple of things that is insane before you pull away. But the mistake is not clearing the air, but how things are going to be different. Now that they have promoted you, because they are going to be different. You are going to make decisions or have to reprimand people at times who don’t perform. That’s part of the territory. And you need to be aware of it as you step into the role. Okay, so that’s the big mistake.
You interview with a company that says they will check references but they never have. What do you do? Well, they’re not ready to hire you or they’re not hiring you. So they’re not checking references. Firms, don’t check references until the point that we’re ready to make the hire. It’s really that simple. If you’re still in the process of interviewing, they’re going to wait until the very end until they’ve made the decision. You’re the one that they want or one of two people or however many finalists there are that, then they’re going to wind up checking references before then it’s too much work for them. So they are limited to the people that they’re close to hiring. So, again, they’re not at the point where they’re ready to make that choice. So don’t sweat it, unless they’ve gone dark on you. They’ve gone dark, reach out to them, say, “Hey, haven’t heard from you about that next interview, do something, email or text them, however, you’ve been communicating with them, try to get on their calendar, and thus express your interest. But if they normally check references, and they haven’t done it yet, or you’ve been rejected, or they’re still evaluating, and they’re not ready to extend that offer.
Should employers require experience for entry-level positions? Well, yes, certain types of positions. So for example, if you’re interviewing for iron, no, I’m going to use an example I’m noticing positions nice, have you had experiences in ours, or if you were going to work in tech, maybe in cyber, and maybe be nice if you own the computer and went online sometimes, and maybe done a couple of things. So if they don’t have to teach you how to turn the thing on, or what have you, it’d be a nice thing to have some basic experience there. And no one’s going to expect the rookie, because that’s the way I always refer to all people. No one expects a rookie to have the in-depth knowledge of a veteran person. That’s the reality of it, you don’t have it. But they’d like to see some version of the experience, it could be an internship, it could be a part-time job isn’t necessarily so necessary for the beat for the exact work that you’re going to be doing for them as a beginner. Now, at least for most situations, because they’re going to hire you and train you, but they want some of the fundamentals underneath you. And again, that can be part of your academic work, plus an internship that you did or a part-time job that you had. But let me give you an example of where it’s not going to pay off for you. I’m going to use your medicals. Okay, you went to college; you got a degree, great, they’re not going to make you a doctor, you go to med school, and you’re not at the point of an internship, you haven’t done an internship, they will not hire you to be a doctor, you go through the internship, and you got to try to be a doctor. So again, they like to see experience, that doctor would be an entry-level doctor, that Medical Center, or that doctor’s office that they’re working in. They are junior and they’re taking all the new patients, right. So no, they don’t expect you to have a lot of experience, but they expect you to have some experience. Okay.
Let’s go to the next one. I have an interview scheduled with a company recruiter. Is it okay? To tell them I need to postpone the interview for a few days? Yeah. If you’re not ready, or you’re dealing with some sort of family emergency, or some other scenario, by all means, reschedule? Don’t tell them. I need a couple of days to brush up. I’m Rusty. That’s dumb, do stupid stuff like that. Just simply say, I can’t do it today. Can we do it on it pick something to three days? And they’ll generally say sure. And if they don’t, they’ll they may say we’ve got a couple of people in the loop that we’re interested in, but we wanted to talk to you and a possibility you could do it sooner. I can’t do it today. Maybe I could do it. You pick two days or tomorrow and just you’re going to have to cram just like you did for courses. So yes, you can postpone, but listen to what they tell you as to whether or not there’s an option for you to get back in the door fairly soon.
What does “promoted” next to job listings on LinkedIn mean? Does it mean that it’s a free ad like any other posting? No, they paid for it to be prominently placed so that it was an earlier position in the results ahead of the organic search results. And thus, you’re going to see it? Because it’s like a pay-per-view situation. So no, it’s not free. They’re paying for that placement so that you see it. And it’s not hidden from you from them. Okay.
Oh, what an attitude this person has! Is LinkedIn, even important for the application and hiring process. So it is, has someone woken up on the wrong side of the bed? You know, it’s important. That’s why you’re on the platform, to begin with. But you’re not getting results. That’s the problem from your vantage point. You’re not getting results from it. So you’re blaming the platform and not you? What could you be doing differently? Are you just sending your profile? It’s the same profile that you’re sending to every job as though all these jobs are the same? Are you submitting a resume in lieu of the profile? And is it the same resume for everything? Are you sending things aspirationally, because I really like to do this, I have no experience doing it. But I really like to do it. And I get interviews that way, I have a LinkedIn profile that’s keyword-rich, related to what you want to be doing, and have done up until this point. So in this way, firms and their recruiters who are searching for someone like this can fund you. From there, the idea is happening become visible. Well, for those recruiters, the keywords are that we have they find you from there. If you’re applying, you’re submitting your profile, your profile has to be rich in keywords. The resume you submit has to be rich in these keywords. You know the answer to that. So yes, it remains important. It’s essential these days, that people have great profiles. They’re on the platform. They’re developing their brand on the platform so that people can find them. And this way, not just simply when you’re actively looking for work, but when you’re not actively looking for work, and the third party and corporate recruiters are reaching out to find someone like you that they can find you.
What makes a good leader? Well, the flip answer is followers. But the more textured answer, I saw a quote from Jack Welsh. I think it was this morning. As a matter of fact, I don’t recall the exact quote. But when you’re developing your leadership, you’re developing yourself. You’re trying to learn and grow. When you are the leader. Your goal is and what defines your success is how you develop the people reporting GE so that they are successful. Leaders Inspire. They don’t motivate. They get people excited; Coach Lance Secretan says they light a fire within someone. They don’t light a fire unless it’s absolutely necessary underneath someone. Sometimes you may have to do it. Someone’s in a funk, something’s happening. Pull them back in. But you’re doing things to grow your team, make them more successful, inspiring them to get great results. And like a parent with a young child, what they do reflects upon you. So understand that be inspiring, and that’s what makes it good.
Is it legal for a potential employer to ask for a paystub? Yes, it is legal. What they’re trying to do is to verify that what was on your ramp patient was truthful. It’s really that simple. So, yes, you can provide a fraudulent one. But the probability isn’t in fine. Yeah, maybe you get away with it for a while, but they’re gonna find out these firms cooperate with one another. Even after you provide the pay stub, they’re going to send something to your previous employer to verify your wages. But the pay stub is the short-term fix that verify that what you feel on the application or what you told them orally, is true about what? So yes, it is. Absolutely. I’m not aware of any place in the country where it is illegal. If you are aware, put a comment in the chat no matter how long, how far in the future, this is put that into chat. So whether people are aware.
I took early retirement a while ago and need to return to the workforce. But while I didn’t email 1000s of resumes, I haven’t gotten a single interview. Do I have any suggestions? Yeah, stop spamming your resume. What you’re doing isn’t working. It’s you’re sending resumes out. You’re flipping them like burgers at a fast-food restaurant. And when you do that, it’s telling me you’re not reading job descriptions, you’re just applying on mass. Maybe you stumble into something, what does work, you’ve been retired, reach out to former coworkers. See if they can recommend you for jobs at their firm, or at other firms that they’ve worked at previously if they can recommend you. So this way, you have social proof from someone who knows this person that you really work out well. And in the meantime, get up to speed. React to the matrix yourself, retrain yourself refresher knowledge, so that you don’t embarrass them in the interviews. So that’s the simplest way to do it.
How can I motivate myself to work? So go back to inspiration versus motivation. Obviously, you need to have someone light a fire underneath you. Right now, you really don’t care about the work. That’s the fact that if you really cared, you wouldn’t be answering this asking this question. So the simplest thing to do is to find work that you give a damn about, instead of doing crap work, I said, crap workers. That’s the way you view it. If you’re not motivated, if you don’t give a rat’s ass about doing a good job, you don’t care. Don’t care. And you know, and so do that. So find work that you care about. And that will excite you and allow you to be successful in your work. Barring that, it, I’m going to remind you of the phrase, give more get more. The more you put out, the more people get to know your work, like and trust you. And from that, they’ll wind up really admiring you. And you’ll enjoy the work more. When someone talks about needing motivation. As I said, you don’t like what you do. You’re bored, disinterested, hated it, whatever it is. And you got to fix that. You’ve got to fix that. Because otherwise, it’s not an enjoyable existence. It’s not an enjoyable life. You want to do work that you enjoy, go find it. And if you don’t know what that work would be, you can go to well, I’ll have a link in the show notes. But orally, I’ll tell you TheBigGameHunter.us/career, and it’ll take you to a firm that provides assessments. And if you order the premium service, they’ll recommend certain careers for you. Again, the big game hunter.us forward slash session, and you’ll get what you need. Okay.
How do you answer “Do you always do you always “follow the rules” Interview Question. So what kind of job are you going for? That’s the launch point of this. Is it something where they want to bring on someone who’s going to do what they’re told? Or they want someone who can think thinking is one of those discrete skills that firms say they want but don’t always, really. So, when you’re answering this question, you have to take into consideration the job involved. And even with that, you can say something along the lines of, you know, especially at the beginning, you know, a lot better than I do, what it takes to be successful. So I’m going to listen to you and follow rules. But I would expect that you’d want me to come back to you, if I saw something problematic. And get you’re okay to change things is that following the rules, I’ll let you decide whether it’s following the rules. Some people would say, Dan, I really, because you’re trying to get the rules changed. But I review it as following the rules. Again, you’ve laid it out, as you know, you know better than I what it takes to be successful. So you’re gonna probably tell me what to do. And I’m going to go ahead and do it. But I would also expect that you want me to bring to your attention certain things that don’t work in the environment so that they can be changed. If you think that’s following the rules. I’m okay with that. If you don’t think it is I’m okay with that, too. Doesn’t matter. But you want me to be able to think not just simply be a nice rule follower.
Why are so many people content with just earning a salary and working nine to six their entire adult life? People have priorities in life. And in doing earning a salary and working nine to six, I’m interpreting that is doing boring work. It’s kind of like, there was an old Rolling Stones song “Well, well-respected man” where he’s a well-respected man about town, doing the best thing so conservatively, and he’s a predictable guy. And there’s nothing wrong with being predictable. They may find comfort in knowing that they can do these tasks as assigned. And then they can go home and watch the telly and have dinner with their wife, husband, partner, play with the kids, their priority is to do their job and go home. They don’t have they may not have major aspirational qualities as you. So from the standpoint of why they do this, I think I just explained that. But that isn’t you if you’re asking this question. Find your way to be great. Don’t take it easy. Be great. Push yourself to excellence. Again, push yourself to excellence. be extraordinary. Be great. It does make a difference in how people see you. And some people are gonna make fun of you or your names. So what? It’s their way of chopping you down. You just go out there and be great. People will notice that too, especially those who the critics, they’ll notice and eventually they’ll give up as you start moving up the ranks and take a pass them by.
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