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What Does It Mean When The Recruiter Isn’t Returning My Calls or Emails? | JobSearchTV.com


If I’m a job applicant and the recruiter I’m working with stops returning my calls and emails, what does that usually mean?

Summary

The question for today is:

If I'm a job applicant in the recruiter. I am working with stops returning my calls and emails, what does that usually mean?  
Well, let me pose a different scenario.  If you are going out with someone and they stop returning your calls, texts and emails, what would that mean?

You know what it means. Who are you kidding?  You just don't like it.

Here is what often happens.  Job hunters have this mistaken notion that recruiters work for them.  They don't.  They work for employers who pay them.  You aren't paying them anything, right? You have to get this notion out of your head that you are working with them.  You aren't working with them. They are trying to fill the positions.  Your background either fits or it doesn't.  When they have something that makes sense, they will be in contact.  

You can drop them a message every once in a while (that doesn't mean daily) to say, "I just wanted to let you know that I'm still available. If something comes up."  

Often, what job hunters do because they are "working with the recruiter" is nag and pester the recruiter. 

Understand you are getting a message in the behavior in much the same way as in a dating scenario, if someone you were going out with stop returning your calls, you will get a message from that that they didn't want to talk with you, right?  

So, you know what it means.  You just have to adjust.

Some people will say you have to work with a lot of recruiters.  I have no idea where you are, geographically, or where you are in your career.  For most people who do not have unique skills or are not at a leadership level, yes, you do have to connect with multiple recruiters.  Recruiters are not pounding on doors to persuade employers to speak with you.  That isn't how the business works.

They are hired by employers and give them requirements for positions that they need to have filled and, if they find the right person, they will be paid for that.  They are not getting on the phone to make 100 phone calls to companies just for you using a call was that they have prearranged so that whenever someone walks in the door they call 100 people every single day.

No. They are filling jobs. They are not "placing people."

Let's assume that you are a relatively inexperienced person, you do need to be contacting multiple people and, more importantly, you do need to be contacting people who graduated from the school that you went to and learn how they got there current job and whether there might be something of their employer that might fit you. You are trying to work with multiple recruiters and responding to ads.  Networking to people that you don't already know and doing informational interviews, networking, going to networking groups, telling everyone that you know repeatedly that you are looking for work…

It's not enough to just simply tell them one time, you have to say it multiple times and the people are reminded that you are looking for job.  After all, when someone has a cold, do referred your doctor to them?  Probably not.  People need constant reminders to refer you to things that they care about.

Back your original question.  It probably means that they don't have anything for you right now and leave them alone.

Do you really think employers are trying to help you?

You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell you as much as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com changes that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle for $.99 and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.”

How to Change Careers Part 1


This video begins a series I’m going to do about changing careers and how to go about doing it.

 

Summary

Changing careers is often will most difficult things a person has to decide to do. You have spent time working in one profession. You've been a business owner and, perhaps, decided to go back to corporate, you worked in corporate and now you decide to go into business for yourself or you decide to get a job in a completely unrelated field but you don't know quite what to do.

These are pretty common scenarios for career changers. I'm beginning a series for those of you who are interested in changing careers with steps that you can take to start the exploration process.

Now, if you think you are suddenly going to have an epiphany, that isn't the way I'm going to leave this process.  The way you will need to go through. This is with care, with time, and with concern.  So I want you to understand this going into the process, because if you aren't prepared to take time

you will wind up barking up the wrong tree and not get the results that you want. If that is what you want to do, you don't need these videos. Where we are going to go with these videos is through a number of steps that you can take that, hopefully, you can stare at and used to evaluate a number of potential opportunities and possibilities, to eliminate ones that don't fit and stick with ones that do.

Let's start by looking at this process from the viewpoint of being a child. My son has been looking at a career in the medical profession for the longest time. Recently, he's come to realize the amount of effort that is going to go into becoming the kind of doctor he said he wanted to become. As a result, his aspirations have rolled back pretty profoundly.

For a lot of job hunters, for a lot of career changers, it is much the same thing. For example, many job changers will say (to use an example that I know), "Oh! I really want to be a quantitative analyst on Wall Street," without really knowing anything about the profession. Then, when they start to look at it closely, decide that is pretty boring and not a lot of fun for them.

The Starting Line
Here's where we start today. I want you to sit down and create an enormous list of what your strengths are. You may think of yourself as one way, but I want you to ask those around you about some of the things they see you as being particularly good at.

Are you empathetic with people?
Are you a great listener?
Are you a terrific speaker?
Are you great in front of a camera?

They can be things that you think are dumb... No filtering!

If you like sports on TV, that goes on the list. If you like playing tennis, that goes on the list.

Anything goes on that list for now. Make it long. Make a comprehensive. Take time with it. This is not spending 5 minutes with it and then you are done.

I want you really thinking about.

I like making dinner for my family can go on the list.
I like going to church/the synagogue/no mosque/the meditation center… Whatever it is, it goes on the list. Every last item.

That's where we are going to start.

 

Do you really think employers are trying to help you?

You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell you as much as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com changes that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle for $.99 and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.”

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How to Change Careers Part 5 | JobSearchTV.com


This is the next video my series about changing careers. I’m sure this is not what you would’ve expected.

Summary

This is part 5 in my series of how to change careers. It is a little atypical and I'm going to start off the story about myself.

After a while, I started to realize how conditioned I had been to think in certain ways and do certain things. From the time I got into school as a little kid until the time I graduated, the system was conditioning me to think in certain ways and do certain things.

The classic thing is being brought to school as a little kid and learning that what you are supposed to do is shut up, do what you're told, regurgitate a bunch of things or else you will get into a good college. Eventually, you get into the college and you get the message that you're supposed to shut up, do what you told, regurgitate a bunch of things or else he will get a good job.

The habit that I was conditioned into was to take direction, do what I was told (What a surprise! I've been told this since I was little and the message got through.), not thinking for myself in some ways about what would make me happy.

I got pushed through the system and,, I want to be clear, I got a lot of good stuff out of it, but my heart's passion has it been the kind of work that I've done for so many years and what I had been conditioned to do.

As part of this exercise that eventually led me to coaching, I start to think, "Let's go crazy!  Tell me some unrealistic things I might try to do."

That's what the next homework assignment is going to be.  Be unrealistic.  Write down a few things for yourself that in no way, shape or form. Do you think you could possibly do.  

This is part of a liberation process because often the conditioning that you have received causes you to think small in self-limiting ways.  Once you start thinking about it, you might actually be able to do some of them.  It might take some practice and you might not be an expert.  The 1st time you do it.  You might need to get training but it is the sort of thing, that when you were a little might of love doing, but discovered that you weren't a good enough pitcher to pitch for the Yankees.

Don't worry if it's realistic.  Think while. Go crazy!  Write down the sort of things that if your friends heard about it, they might tease you.  Remember, these are true for you and the reaction is their "stuff."  Don't let their opinions rule your life right now.  You are trying to figure out what is going to excite you in your life right now and ignite your passion and your career.  That's the most important thing right now.

Maybe it's something that you did when you were little.  I have a friend who decided he wanted to run a scuba business in the Bahamas.  He left his job to do scuba.  Maybe that's your thing.  Just write down 3 things (and if you write down 5 or 10 or 50, that's. Even better).

 

Do you really think employers are trying to help you?

You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell you as much as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com changes that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle for $.99 and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.”

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How Do I Get a Recruiter to Respond to A Salary Negotiation? | JobSearchTV.com


There has been no response to emails or instant messaging. I don’t want to bother my boss. Why aren’t they getting back to me?

Summary

I was asked, "How do I get a recruiter to respond to a salary negotiation?"

The person has been an intern and they have made an offer to them.  The recruiter for this firm hasn't been responding to emails or instant messaging and the intern is frustrated.  They want to find out how they can reach this person for negotiating.

Here are a few points:

As an intern who is converting to full-time staff, you are small fish on their plate.  I have other, more important fish to fry, too.  HR has a lot of things on their plate; they have hiring managers who are demanding service; they are interviewing; they are trying to fill positions; they are writing a heads… There are many things that HR is doing… You are not a big concern for them.
This HR person may be out of the office.  They may be traveling. They may be doing campus recruiting, hence why they may not be responding to you.
You are right not to trouble your boss.  This is not a major priority.  If the rule, they offered you a job  and you have already done parts of this job before.  They will probably be asking themselves, "What's the big deal?  You knew what the price point was we brought you want for this internship?"
They just don't care.  There's no point or concern that they have, because, after all, it's not like you're the only intern on the planet or qualified to do this job.  There are others. Their desire to negotiate is really small.
Let me summarize for you where you stand.

On the one side there is a rock. On the other side, there is a hard place.  You are somewhere between the two.

If your goal is to just make the connection and they are not respond, send an email to HR with the subject line, "Are you okay?"  The message may read something along the lines of, "I have emailed and I am do you and had not received a response.  I have a few questions about the job offer.  Would you give me a call, please?  I just want to make sure you are okay?  My experience of you is that you would normally get back to me but since I haven't heard, I just want to make sure that you are all right."

That will usually "guilt them" into surfacing.

 

Do you think employers are trying to help you? You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell you as much as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com changes that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle for $.99 and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.”

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Why Do People Hire Career Coaches? | JobSearchTV.com

I offer one basic reason and offer two scenarios for why someone should hire a career coach.

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Summary

"Why Do People Hire Career Coaches?"

The 1st answer I'm going to say may sound flip to some of you and self-serving to others, but is factually correct. The answer is, "because they are smart."

They know they need help. They haven't been able to figure it out for themselves so they do the smart thing. They are getting advice. They are getting help from someone who knows better than they how to get the result that they want. Let me illustrate. Let's start with the job search scenario and then go on to a few others.

In a job search, a person has been hitting their head against the wall. They're not getting the results they want. They had been talking to friends, family, former managers, anyone that they know who know little more than day in order to get advice.  Doesn't it make sense to ask someone who has far more experience than they in helping people find work to help them get results?  Of course it is.  It is smart.

Let me give you another scenario.  Someone is in a career they don't really care for. They are bored. Listless.  They are behaving weirdly with family.  Behaving this way because they are just not happy doing the work that they are doing.  They go to a career coach for help.

Career coaches have tools and experiences that will help a job hunter, help you as a professional who is struggling with what to do next. They may be able to help you get to where you want to faster.  Now you may still fumble around because it's not like I'm going to listen to you and say, "Oh!  You should be a dentist!"  It doesn't work that way.

We only learn a certain amount from each person AND we can move things along much faster than if you don't see a career coach.

My site, JobSearchCoachingHQ.com is geared toward the job hunting side of life.  

It is very inexpensive if you join there. You'll get access to curated information that will help you find work much faster PLUS the ability to ask me questions, all at a very reasonable price.

If you want to do one-on-one coaching with me, I will help you get to the finish line fast..

If you want to do career coaching,. I do it, and a lot of other people do it. But, coming back to the original question, the goal is not to wander through your life, dissatisfied,, wandering through life unhappy. Life is hard enough. Get help.

Certainly in job search, certainly in other then venues, the people who you go to for advice, have little more experience than you do. What makes you think you're giving you the right information?

Better to get to a coach than fumble around.

Do you think employers are trying to help you?

You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell you as much as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com changes that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

Connect with me on LinkedIn

You can order a copy of “Diagnosing Your Job Search Problems” for Kindle for $.99 and receive free Kindle versions of “No BS Resume Advice” and “Interview Preparation.”

 

Job Search Lessons from the Presidential Election of 2016


I believe there are lessons that can be learned from the first presidential debate between Donald Trump and Sec. Clinton that you can apply to your job search. Both made mistakes that you can learn from.

Summary

Today, I want to point out another one of those lessons that’s coming from this year’s presidential election. The lesson I want to point out comes from the debate that took place this week with Donald Trump and Sec. Clinton and entering “the deathmatch.” One on one. “Manno a Femmo.” I want to offer a less biased opinion of what I saw and what the media seems to be providing.

Universally they seem to say Trump was awful. When I saw was that in the first 30 or 40 minutes of the debate he matched up well. They obviously disagreed on items and you would expect that. I thought he was accurate and some of his statements on the impact of trade policy and matched up well with her there.

There was a point after the 30 or 40 minute mark where the tide clearly turned. At this juncture, Sec. Clinton’s preparation served her very well. For you as a job hunter, I believe there are lessons that you can learn from both candidates. Critiquing both of them I think there are things that you can take away.

He was not as well prepared as he could have been. Yes, we all read these stories about how he wasn’t going to be doing debate prep and a variety of other things. It’s kind of like going to an interview without preparation and deciding to “wing it.” Presidential debates on job interviews and were seeing the two people in making decisions about them.

Trump didn’t do well he did well in the first part of the interview but in the next hour of time, I thought he did poorly and revealed his lack of preparation. The words didn’t come out well. Even his snarky comments where he whispers into the microphone to disagree with her, he hadn’t done them with an audience before and appeared to be snarky.

I think Clinton made mistakes, too, and the biggest one was that she was smug. She appeared to bask in her own magnificence and missed opportunities to connect with the audience. Yes, she had punches to the ribs and kidneys throughout. Here is one example. Talking about how Trump and his businesses didn’t pay bills to small businesses like her father’s. Her father’s business never did business with Trump. she used it to illustrate that a lot of small business owners who were stiffed by Trump.

She would have a smile on her face that was arrogant, smug and not likable.

To me, that was a missed opportunity. Yes, the intelligence is there but part of what you try to do as a job hunter is connect with the audience, the interviewer, the panel. You can’t sit back and be so cocky that you turn people of.

So, I want to point out that there are lessons we can take from their mistakes that you can apply to job hunting. I’ve done shws about dumb interviewing mistakes that candidates make involving lack of preparation and being so full of yourself that  \\you are sitting there with a big smile on your face, enjoying yourself, instead of focusing on the audience.

 

Do you really think employers are trying to help you? You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com is there to change that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

Connect with me on LinkedIn http://bit.ly/thebiggamehunter

Breaking Out


There is a price we pay to have the life and career we want.

Summary

I want to speak with you today about this notion I have of playing big in the world. There is a price that you pay where you try to break out of the box that organizations try placing you in. For example, if you think back to when you were young, you are brought to school, told to sit at the desk, do what you were told, regurgitate a bunch of facts or else… Or else you might not get into a good college.

You did your best and then went to that good college, told to do the same thing or else you wouldn’t get a good job. These threats go on and on and on and never stop.

In breaking the mold at this stage in your life, and living a little differently, in ways that satisfy you and not necessarily “the machine,” you are changing the dynamics. As a result, there is a price that you pay for doing that. The price usually is criticism.

People start telling you that you are doing the wrong thing. In their own way, they’re trying to show you that they care about you and don’t want you to be hurt. But their dream is not your dream and you need to live yours.

A lifetime doesn’t last as long as we would like it to. Trust me. I remember talking to my dad before he passed, he missed things they want to have happen in his life. But there were more things they want to do and feel and experience… But time didn’t permit him to do them. The same is true of all of us.

Criticism is that tax or price we pay for breaking out on the confines of that box that institutions you try to socialize us into. If you are willing to pay that practice and face rejection and criticism, there is a potential for hope,

for change for living the life we want to have. There are no guarantees, just possibility of learning the lessons that you need to so that you can live the life that you’ve always wanted.

Your choice. Whatever is good for you is good for me. I would like to support you with it. If you are interested, reach out to me.. My web address is www.NoBSCoachingAdvice.com; schedule some time with me.

I would love to help you play big in the world.

 

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been coaching people to play their professional and personal games BIG for what seems like 100 years.

For more No BS Coaching Advice and encouragement, visit my website, www.NoBSCoachingAdvice.com

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Should I Ask for a Referral Bonus from a Recruiter?


I don’t like the person I would be referring but isn’t this what recruiters do and they are paid for it.

Summary

No, it is not the same thing the recruiters do. You've done one small part of the recruiting job--you know someone. Whoopey! You know how many other parts there are? Of course you don't

The job of being a recruiter is not just simply taking the name and going to the client and saying, "here. This person is perfect. Them and send me a check."

There are so many more details the going to be a successful recruiter that you don't have a clue about! So I want to dispel that notion that, just because you know someone, you should be entitled to a fee.

Now, the maker of the first part where you ask whether you should ask for a referral bonus. Let me ask you a question. When you refer someone to a doctor, are you asking for a referral bonus from them? How about a lawyer? An insurance agent? Plumber? Certainly US for a referral bonus for a plumber. How about a restaurant. Certainly you do that with a restaurant!

But you want to do with the recruiter. You want to hold them up.

Now I'm sure they're going to be many comments from people who believe that you should ask them for money but would never think of asking the doctor, lawyer, insurance agent, plumber or a favorite restaurant for money.

I'm sure you are told by people, "why not? They are getting so much money from their fee."

And I have to tell you, folks, you have no idea what goes into the job – – how much heartache and agony they experience in their job that you are clueless about.

There are some awful recruiters and some tremendous ones. Why can't they are living without you sticking your hand in your pocket?

You'll do that with all these other people that you have a bug up your butt about recruiters and want to punish the one who reached out to you for this job or maybe who helped you find the job and punish them for the mistreatment you receive from someone else.

Stop it.

Be generous. Be patient.

I don't like the person I would be referring but isn't this what recruiters do and they are paid for it.

 

Do you really think employers are trying to help you? You already know you can’t trust recruiters—they tell as they think you need to know to take the job they after representing so they collect their payday.

The skills needed to find a job are different yet complement the skills needed to do a job.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been a career coach and recruiter for what seems like one hundred years.

JobSearchCoachingHQ.com is there to change that with great advice for job hunters—videos, my books and guides to job hunting, podcasts, articles, PLUS a community for you to ask questions of PLUS the ability to ask me questions where I function as your ally with no conflict of interest answering your questions.

Connect with me on LinkedIn 

Trial By Fire


Facing facts. Facing who you are and the decisions you’ve made . . . incredibly hard.

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter has been coaching people to play their professional and personal games BIG for what seems like 100 years.

For more No BS Coaching Advice and encouragement, visit my website, <a href=”http://www.NoBSCoachingAdvice.com” >www.NoBSCoachingAdvice.com

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More Useful Campus Recruiting | No BS Hiring Advice


Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter. Discusses a more effective way of doing campus recruiting.

Summary

This one's involved with college recruiting.
Most of you at this point have a pretty predictable routine with doing campus recruiting and, frankly, doesn't it stink. You stand there. Get some resumes. You talk to the kids, you bring them in later on. People interview them. You know the routine.
Have you considered before you have the day that it be a purposeful day? That you arrange for the University to do testing of the graduates or the potential employees as a way of determining whether or not they know anything?
Let's assume that they know very little but what are your expectations for what these kids know when they graduate? How could you test those people before you even shake their hands in order to determine whether or not they're qualified? Now, some of you will say, "well, no one will show up."
Well, that's a criteria that you can use for evaluating. If they're hungry enough to show up, aren't you more interested than if they don't give a darn. Of course, you' are.
A lot of the kids out there are being coddled and you don't want to hire babies. You can get them a year or two later after someone else's broken them in and focus on the ones that are prepared to drive hard and dive hard into challenges. That's who you really want. You don't want the ones who are really disguised infants. Those people may be very qualified but not on the personality side, not on the temperament side, not in terms of the effort that they're willing to expend side. You want to get them after they have that.
So, wait a year or two. Contact them later. You can find them on LinkedIn, right? But, at the end of the day, set up testing for these people. Find out what they really know. You may discover that that University that's been encouraging your firm to hire really doesn't do such a good job of teaching and you can start assessing different schools based upon what the outcome is from your test

ABOUT JEFF ALTMAN, THE BIG GAME HUNTER

Jeff Altman, The Big Game Hunter is a career and leadership coach who worked as a recruiter for more than 40 years. He is the host of “No BS Job Search Advice Radio,” the #1 podcast in iTunes for job search with more than 1300 episodes and his newest show, “No BS Coaching Advice.” He is a member of The Forbes Coaches Council.

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